Monday, June 14, 2010

Formor International New Cardio Cocktail with Stevia - is the New Cardio Cocktail Better?

Who Cares if the New Cardio Cocktail is Better..

Who Cares if it is Liquid Gold and Contains the Most amazing fountain of Youth.

It will NOT change the Morals, Ethics, Illegal Behavior and Constant Distributor Sabotage at Formor International.

You can Build a HUGE Downline and Sell a Good Product, however Formor International will take your downline at any tiem .. out of the blue for any reason. They claim no one has a website - yet they all do - Formor International pulls out the Policies Manual whenever it suits them and after they let you build a life, an income and become "dependent" on selling Formor International Products.

Formor Stole a Downline and Thousands in Monthly Pay for a Distributor Recently because the Formor International Distributor Bought a Generic Un-Trademarked Domain Name and Formor International Wanted it so they Fired the Formor International Distributor.

And Stole the Whole Months Income of Which they have Never Paid... Chris Capehart warned the Formor International Distributor - so they removed the site and still Chris Capehart of Formor International Fired this Formor International Distributor.

So there is No Ethics or Morals at Formor International.
You have No Rights, so Why Bother Building a Downline when Formor International has STOLE Huge Downlines from VERY Large Formor International Distributors.

There are too many Stories from Ex-Formor International Distributor to NOT Be True. My Story is VERY True - I have seen this stuff First Hand, there is no way to make, create and keep an online business as a Formor International Distributor - UNLESS
your Willing to Do as they Say, Keep their Secrets and Pretend you have no Website, pretend you don't sign up your spouse and basically LIE - Cheat and Steal and then Get Fired anyway with the Famous Formor International Distributor Bible Scripture "Your Fired" Letter...

There is NO Way I Would Trust Formor International for any Reason.
I DO NOT Care if Cardio Cocktail is New and Improved - it is the Same ol' Formor International.
I would NEVER be a Formor International Distributor.

Crystal L. Cox

Wednesday, April 7, 2010

Attention: Advanced Products Formor International

I have Posted the TRUTH.

I have been harassed, defamed and my business ruined over and over by Formor International.. I see that Advanced Products - Formor International Today Googled "crystal l cox harassment" - I am not harassing you, nor am I defaming you, just posting what you have done to Formor International Distributors...

Why are you Googling "crystal l cox harassment" - I am not harassing you.. you call - your Formor International Distributor does as you ask and removes your product from their website, they COMPLY with your harassment and demands and YOU Advanced Products - Formor International - you Fire them Immediately ...

Now that is Harassment... so Keep Googling "crystal l cox harassment" - I am posting the TRUTH...

Thursday, April 1, 2010

Formor International - Pay Leslie Turner for the Month Of March.

Say NO - Quit the Formor International Mafia - NOW.

Formor International Harassed and Extorted Leslie Turner, she Said NO.. they fired her.. locked her out of her back office on the Last Day of the Month.. they are Keeping a Nice Chunk of Her Money over this.. and They Will Be Sued this TIME.. and By a LARGE group of US.. Who are NOT going to Take it ANYMORE !!!

3 years we have Been Constantly attacked by Formor International - many Formor International Distributors have told ME Sick Stories of Formor International Stealing their Money... Bullying Them.. Extorting them.. Stealing Domain Names and PUNISHING .. Severely Formor International Distributors WHO not give up EXTREMELY Valuable Domain Names that Formor International has No Legal Right to in ANY Way...

And the Bull about No One has Websites When Everybody Does.. that Formor International PULLS out just when you have started making GOOD Money.. well that is UnEthical at Best.. Fraud - Deception.. Bait and Switch and Plain Ol' Wrong...

Formor International is Stealing Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner's Downline and her Paycheck because she was Smarter then Formor International Golden Boy - Chris Capehart.

Formor International has been Pulling this Unethical Behavior to us for 3 years, and tons of other Distributors.. when Does the Tyranny end at Formor International ?

I for one have Seriously had Enough..

Any other Formor International Distributor's Taken enough ABUSE from Formor International ?

Time for a Class Action Lawsuit - for Harassment, Theft - Discrimination in Policy and Procedures, Discrimination Period, Fraud, Bait and Switch ... Deception and More.. I have heard and Taken Enough from the Evil Formor International.

Posted by
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Mad Dog Blogger....

Wednesday, March 31, 2010

Well Yep it Happened Formor International Chris Capehart was even More Dumb on that SUSPENSION then I Thought.

Chris Capehart Calls Leslie Turner Ex-Formor Distibutor at the end of his workday in Conway Arkansas. He was on the blog JointCocktail.com for 6 Hours before he got the nerve up to make that seriously fumbled call.

Now the Date Chris Capehart called was Tuesday, March 30, 2010. The Date that Leslie Turner registered JointCocktail.com on was - Created on: 26-Mar-10

The Date that Chris Capehart Formor International Emailed Leslie Turner her Suspension Letter was ON - Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 4:22 PM

Ok ya Still with Me on this..

Get This..

The Suspension Letter is Dated March 25th 2010, the Day before Leslie Turner Registered JointCocktail.com .

So did Formor Internal fire someone else on March 25th for the same reason and just changed the letter to Leslie Turner's name. Or did Formor Have a Psychic Premonition that a Leslie Turner would Register JointCocktail.com in the late evening of the next day ?


Formor International Does not have a Trademark on JointCocktail.com - yet they demand that this name now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars BE transfered to them for Free and immediatly - well Time for a Class Action Lawsuit against Formor International for Harassment, Defamation, Taking Downlines, Stealing Volume and Much .. MUCH More..

Whose IN? eMail me at Crystal@CrystalCox.com

By the way 5800 websites use the words "Joint Cocktail" - Leslie Turner the Only one with the Internet Savvy to buy the Dot Com.. So all these sites talk about Joint Cocktail - Yet Formor International Chris Capehart tries to run a "Trade Name" bluff on us.

I am betting that Chris Capehart Formor International is Eating some Mudd Pie today as why would Formor International do this to US... knowing that we have the Dotcom for other products they did this same dumb move with...

This is one Perfect Example of the incompetence at Formor International and on top of that they persecute distributors and ruin lives with their policies and procedures selective memory routine. Good for One.. Good for ALL.. no Formor International is about Double Standards and is not about Empowering or Respecting their Distributors.

And when they have controlled them, got their way with the Almighty suspension which means hey your kids don't eat this month, your mortgage don't get paid, they continue to berate and knock your business out from under you constantly.

These people spent years building a business around Formor International, so they had come to rely on that to get them by in their Real Lives with their Real Family so when the Formor International Mafia Threatens Suspension the Formor International Distributor will immediately do as they say even if it is NOT Legal, Ethical or is Completely Discriminating and Out of Line.. they have no Choice.. they have Families and Lives built around this income that they created with their hard work.

Formor International is not fair or just in any way, they are greedy, controlling and use horrific tactics to Force Formor International Distributor's to do as they say, to shut down sites, to give domain names and whatever Formor International wants.

Formor International talks down to distributors, berates distributors, knocks out links and STEAL your Money.. we watch the Volume.. it is there and then gone.. now if you don't do Internet Marketing full time you may not see the Volume go into your Formor International back office, So you have no way of knowing that it comes back out.

Formor International is no Friend of Mine, and I Caution ANYONE in Joining the Formor International Mafia, you get in .. you work hard.. you do as they say.. and they still Violate You, Harass You and Take YOUR Money... all in the Name of Proverbs 16:11

"The Lord Demands Fairness in Ever Business Deal. He Established this Principle"

Well if there is a Heaven and a Hell.. the Formor International and Advanced Products Team will Certainly Burn in Hell. They are so into the Scriptures, but Really .. there is a lot more in the bible that may be a More Appropriate Scripture when Firing Someone with NO Notice, within Minutes of when they Do as YOU Say. and "Fairness in EVERY Business Deal" what a Crock of Shit that Formor International Keeps spewing in the name of the "Lord" ...

And wasn't yesterday the "Memorial" for Christ's Death for Millions of People around the World? All this is so disturbing I Can Not imagine Formor International having ONE Distributor still working for them... under ANY Circumstances...

By the Way Chris Capehart - YOUR Fired !!! -
as Donald Trump says .. it's NOT personal.. it's Business...

Also Chris Capehart there is No Cure for this VIOLATION...

How did Leslie Turner - now Ex-Formor International Distributor Come to Own JointCocktail.com? Well She is Just that GOOD !!!

How Dumb is Formor International, Really?

Breaking News:
Formor
International - Dumb Gets Dumber..

Just when You Thought that Formor International
Could NOT Possibly get any Dumber...


See though we have been giving Formor International Internet Marketing lessons for years they are still to Ignorant and to Arrogant to Pay Attention, to get advice and to really grasp this here Internet marketing Thing...

ForMor International is So Dumb in Fact.. so Clueless INDEED.. that They Spent who knows how many months brainstorming about a new product, fiddling with the label.. laying out the product on the Formor International Website... talking about it.. and yada yada for who knows how long... and then Formor International's Brilliant in House "Web Department" worked on flyers.. and developing.. their Big Announcement.. even Twittered it and Facebooked it.. WoW

They spent Millions Developing this new product, and yet .. a little itty bitty $10 purchase just slipped their Clueless - Arrogant - Better then Thou BRAINS...

So anyway.. Formor International sent Email announcements out to all their distributors.. about their New Star Product "Joint Cocktail"

this was
Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 2:45 PM


This Formor International - Joint Cocktail Announcement was sent to ALL Formor International Distributors .. YEP.. you Guessed it.. ALL Before.. The Dumb Asses at Formor International even thought of Registering the Domain Name JointCocktail.com ..

After 10PM Mountain Time, Leslie Turner got that Formor International email, and out of all the Distributors who got it.. and 7 hours later.. she bought the DotCom .. as any Brilliant Internet Marketing Genious would have the Savvy to do..

Now Formor International knows how Good we are at Internet Marketing, they have been Bitching about it for years now.. Formor International knows we own DanHobbs.com - FormorSucks.com - NobelEnergyDrink.com - and more.. and well we are Just That Good..

Yet not only did Formor International fail to register the Domain Name before they Tell the world or even whisper the product name around the Formor International break room.. They also sent out a Distributor wide Email announcement of their new produce Joint Cocktail, BEFORE they buy the DotCom..

Now Does it Get Much Dumber then that.. ???

Does Any Formor International distributor actually make money with Formor International ... don't you fear them Firing You at any moment.. Look at their Track Record..

How in the World can you get ahead with these MLM Mafai tactics.. and it has been going on for years and years.. and new distributors are still being Duped into the Formor International Scam.. the Ol' Bait Switch Galore Party.. Enough already.. Quit Formor Now. . .. Run..


Attention Formor Distributors... You Better Head on Over to www.LeslieTurner.com but quick and Get Out of that Sinking Ship at Formor International.

Leslie Turner was at the Top of the Search Engines within the hour after she purchased that Domain Name.. Wouldn't you want to work with someone who can do that for Your Liquid Argine Business.. Your Online Home Based Business.. or do you want to Stick with Formor as they continue to Fumble in the Dark.. at The Expense and hardship of their Dedicated, Hardworking Formor International Distributors.

Formor International Does not get what the Heck this internet thing is all about, they will never get it.. look at their track record.. All Formor Can do is take advantage of the Smart Formor International Distributors - Threaten them.. bully them and well.. Demand of them and then Suspend them ...

Formor International is so Clueless and Arrogant.. they don't even try and copy us and do better.. 3 years Later.. Duh..

I am Banking on the Internet Savvy and Web Marketing Skills of Leslie Turner..
And I suggest You Do the Same
Join Leslie Turner at Good Life International .. Click HERE.
Better Pay Plan - Better Product - Better Treatment.

P.S. - all you Jack Asses at Formor International .. go on ahead.. and .. Huff and Puff, I Own JointCocktail.com and YOU ain't Gettin' it.. .. I offered $201 .. SOLD...

Here is what I will Be Selling there
Mega Joint Plus - Click Here





Tuesday, March 30, 2010

Chris Capehart - Formor International Internet Compliance Calls Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner.

Chris Capehart Calls Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner.

Chris Capehart leaves a message saying he is with Formor Web Department and wants Leslie Turner to Call him back.

Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner Calls Chris Capehart back.

Listen That Call Below




Translation: I Really Screwed UP, I Can't Believe I am so Dumb, Please Save Me..
ok then .. I will have a Hissy Fit and Fire Your Ass...

Your So Smart for Registering that Domain Name, Our Fault .. but will you give it to us .. because.. well uh.. I am new to Internet Marketing and don't really have a clue what I am doing.. Granpa and Uncle Mike .. gunna be real madddd if I don't get this out of ya.. so please.. I mean your So smart but how about $200 - that sound good for you.. I would Love to offer you $200 Dollars.. Yee Haw..

Right After this Call Chris Capehart - Formor International Internet Compliance, Locks Formor Distributor Leslie Turner Out of Her Back Office, though she Said she would Remove Formor International - Joint Cocktail from her site. So she Complied, and Still was Threatened, Harassed and Fired by Chris Capehart - Formor International Golden Boy.

Here is the eMail Chris Capehart - Formor International stayed late on the Job to Send to Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner.


"" --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Chris Capehart wrote:

From: Chris Capehart
Subject: JointCocktail.com

To: tenlakesrealty@yahoo.com

Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 4:22 PM

Hi Leslie,

We spoke on the phone earlier and were cut off.

As I was saying we would really like to work something out regarding JointCocktail.com.

Again we appreciate distributors like yourself being quick to do things to market the products.

We would love to offer $200 dollars and will be willing to mail the check as soon we make the transfer.

According to our Policies and Procedures Section C-10, which is copied below, you are in violation and we are required to take action.

We would rather work this out in the manner discussed earlier, so please let us know if you change your mind.

Until that point I regret to inform you that
we are required to suspend your distributorship.


I have attached a copy of a letter that you will also be receiving in the mail which states this.
Domains - Distributors are strictly prohibited from utilizing or securing any domain name that is any trademark or any derivative of a ForMor trademark or trade name or product name.

Thank you,
Chris Capehart
Internet Compliance

ccapehart@formor.com ""

At Formor International you are Prohibited to be Smarter then anyone at Formor International. Should you use your Brain and do better then they do at Internet Marketing - well they will sweet talk ya - that don't work ... they will threaten ya.. oh then your FIRED...
So There.. Take That..

In the event that a Formor Distributor is Really good at Internet Marketing.. well then Formor International will have to Remove you as a Formor International Distributor ..

Formor Distributor FIRED for Being Smarter then Owners Grandson...

So after the Call.. the Back Office Lockout .. Chris Capehart emails the Following Formor International "We Get your Money" Letter, that Formor International is so Famous for.

Click Here To View the Latest Collateral Damage At Formor International

From: Chris Capehart - Formor International

Chris Capehart
Internet Compliance
ccapehart@formor.com

Does Chris Capehart know about CardioCocktail.com - did he Offer $200 for This ..??

Stay Tuned Much More on this Breaking Formor International Story Coming SOON.. How much Money they get by Firing This Distributor and well.. so much more that Chris Capehart - Formor International will wish he had got a job that was not based in Nepotism, but rather a Job that Chris Capehart was Actually Qualified For.

Posted By
Investigative Blogger
Industry Whistleblower
Crystal L. Cox

Ex-Formor International Distributor...
And Still.. Oh.. So Happy about it..

Chris Capehart - Internet Compliance at Formor International.

Chris Capehart - Internet Compliance at Formor International. Stan Goss Grandson, Michael Goss Nephew FIRES Formor International Distributor for Being Smarter Then Him.

Lord Formor International as it again and the Bible Quote at the Bottom of YOUR Fired !! Formor Golden Boy Formor International Chris Capehart.

Click Here To View the Latest Collateral Damage At Formor International

From: Chris Capehart - Formor International

Chris Capehart
Internet Compliance
ccapehart@formor.com

Chris Capehart - Formor International

Thursday, December 17, 2009

Monday, December 14, 2009

FormorSucks.com Preview of What's to Come...

Many are searching on this site, and even emailing me, This site will get a makeover soon, I have been swamped. Today many are searching Chris Gingrasso - in the next few weeks

We will talk about the people that contact me worried for their adult children who have got "sucked in" to Dan Hobbs revivals and more about ForMor selling product in the name of God.

The Formor stuff is my first hand experience. the Ace K stuff, and the other insider secrets ...
That does not change the fact of how ForMor International - Chris Gingrasso treated me.

No one will ever convince me that Formor International did not steal my sales, I watched it happen on my stat counter, people called me.. there was and is nothing I can do but warn folks though they seem to Not believe me, oh well this is my Story, my experience and whether you believe me or not does not change the Truth of what REALLY happened.

ForMor International Constantly sabotaged my business and took from me, why not fire me long before they used me, copied my ideas, stole my Internet traffic and then harassed me and All in the name of God, of Scriptures sent to me.. WHAT?

Believe What you Need to.
For Me I Know my Truth.
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Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Formor International

Monday, November 9, 2009

Hello Readers - I had dropped this Site from Public View... however.. I have a..

Hi Folks, well a Young Man it would seem has started a blog about what he thinks happened to me at Formor, a Blog that trashes my Real Estate Career, Oddly compliments my Photography, and is to let you know that Formor Rocks and well I am just out to get them.... oh and lots of other things. And this alleged young man is doing so anonymously, the Domain name was registered anonymously and he is an anonymous author or he thinks he is.

Folks Do Not Trust information or advice of any kind that the Author will not put their name to.

So this Site is back up, Expect a whole lot more on this young man, his blog on me, what his connections to ForMor are, his Opinion on Bastards and Homosexuals, and a whole lot more.. stay tuned... for more of this Soap Opera....

Friday, October 16, 2009

Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Formor International

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Formor International

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ForMor DownLine

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Attention Formor Distributors:

ForMor International

Formor International

Letter to Me from Todd Bates

Crystal,

I know you don’t like ForMor and that’s fine with me.
I certainly don’t expect you to publish any of this.

However, I would like to set the record straight on a couple issues.

When I talked about how much money I have made at a meeting, I was referring to one issue…

What I made as a result off having two positions.

Everyone who had two positions when it was allowed was free to keep the two at the time of the change.

If I had not had the two positions in that plan I would have been making far less.

What you published was taken out of context.

As far as income goes…

I know better than to make income claims in any forum.
I would have only alluded to the fact that myself and others have earned five figures a month, and that is absolutely true.

Crystal, I certainly don’t make excuses for moving people under people in the old 15/45 plan.

I had several full-time people dying in the old plan because they could not get past 4-7k a month.

That plan was SO difficult for most people to make a full-time income.

So, I moved several people under others to increase their income at my expense.

Anytime I moved anyone multiple people benefited, including the person being moved.

I made sure additional volume was moved under the person being moved from the sponsor’s first level.

Lastly, I was working at corporate when David Nelson was terminated.

There was so much evidence as to his violations that FMI had no choice but to act.

If there had not been a ton of proof ,I'm sure Mr. Nelson would have taken legal action.

I have no intention to get in a debate with you on these or any other issues you may have ForMor.

Don't bother trying to engage me in any issues you have with ForMor, as I will not respond.

Anyway, I hope you do well with whatever company your with, and whatever you do!


Thanks,

Todd Bates
ForMor International
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Tuesday, September 22, 2009

ForMor sticks it to the distributors again

This Information sent in to the FMI Sucks Blog.
DTD 9-22-09.
This seems to be the standard procedure for returned items.

I had someone in my downline return bottles of Argenix to ForMor and below is ForMor's unbelievable response.

To Whom it Concerns,
This response is quite interesting. If these paid out bonuses are correct, the product itself is no real value-that is manufacturing costs are basically nil. Should give us something to think about!!!

Regards, Distributor

ForMor Response

Hello Distributor,

In reference to the orders you returned from Nov/Dec 2008, we will be issuing a refund to you minus the bonus amounts paid out to your upline. See the breakdown as follows:

The order from November was $241.73 (not including shipping) we paid-out in bonuses $231.00.

The order from December was $241.73 (not including shipping) we paid-out in bonuses $231.00

The total refund which will be put back on the credit card used for these purchases, ending in **************, will be $21.46. We will make this refund tomorrow.


Thank you for your patience!

Max
Director of Experience
ForMor International
501.336.0077


The following is my response:

This is an outright lie! The product cost $39.95 per bottle of which $14.95 is uncommissionable. ForMor also states that their maximum payout is 83%, which leaves 17% of 25 BV which equals $4.25...so he should be getting back $4.25 + $14.95 or $19.20 per bottle X12 bottles equals $230.40. Where they come up with the $21.46 is truly a mystery. He would be better off demanding the 12 bottles back!


A commission of $231 on a $243.70 comes out to 95.5%. No company would be able to stay in business with this much of a payout.


If I was this Distributor, I would pursue this further.

ForMor is putting Distributors out of business

With the recent price decrease Formor is putting it’s distributors in the unemployment line. Part time Distributors will be forced to only purchase what they can personally use and I can tell you, it is not 4 Bottles per month.

There is no way one person can absorb 4 quarts of product every month. With the new qualification and price structure it will be necessary to stock pile product in the garage. The part time distributor will be forced to quit. With a stock pile of product nobody wants. Can’t sell, can’t give away, even the dog won’t eat it. You will have to throw it down the drain.

ForMor On Returned products ~ Didn’t you know they are not refunded?

My upline purchased a large quantity of ForMor Product unfortunately for the week before the bottom fell out at ForMor International and they began a Liquidation sale, no pun intended.

This valuable Distributor has no recourse but to “Eat It”.

Here one of the questions shared with us in an email letter issued by ForMor International in response to the Distributors that were nailed one last time by the ForMor International’s previous “Price Gouging” tactics.

What should I do with Cardio Cocktail that I have in stock at the higher price?

ForMor’s Scripted answer for distributors to issue:

"What I have decided to do with my stock (I have about 25 bottles) is to sell them at the $49.95 Even though we paid $ 69.95 to be compliant with new pricing and move what I have even though this may be at a bit of a loss. The long-term benefit of this change is what I have decided to focus on. For the most part I am using my stock to give people their first order and have what I gave them shipped back to me. We call this “Revolving Inventory”. "

This is Bull. The distributor has lost all credibility. The product is widely available for less money.

Sunday, September 6, 2009

Some Say that ForMor did not Lower the Price of Cardio Cocktail to Compete with another Product..

They say that ForMor International in all their compassion, lowered the price of Cardio Cocktail due to Economic Times... and well these folks fell for that .. hook line and sinker.
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The Truth is they Lowered the Price to Look like they are competing with the New and Well in my Opinion better Product from a better Company, that from where I am sitting actually seems to have morals and respect for those who make them money..
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Anyway... ForMor Did not Do this to Help YOU during Bad Economic times, you have to now buy 4 bottles of Cardio Cocktail instead of 2 bottles of Cardio Cocktail, your buy in to qualify is quite a bit more and the shipping is twice as much...
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The Ol' Bait and Switch... Gingrasso Style.. don't Forget Chris Gingrasso is a Magician.
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Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Al Sewell - Formor International Distributor

Al Sewell was responsible for bringing a great number of African Americans to join the ForMor International business. Al Sewell was always a favorite on stage with the people at the conventions and could excite any crowd with his enthusiasm. Right after his personal friend and sponsor, Dr. Harry Elwardt, was terminated, he and his friend Dave Parker, started getting phone calls from Stan Goss, Chris Gingrasso and Dave Bolden pleading with them to not follow Dr. Elwardt. When Al refused, he was terminated; his check stripped from him and once again told he was cross recruiting without providing any proof.
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Let's Look at the integrity of some of the leaders at Formor International

Now let’s look at the integrity of some of the leaders at ForMor International that are responsible for making all the changes and setting the new direction for ForMor.

Todd Bates…

Todd Bates has been with ForMor since 1996. Todd Bates originally was a distributor sponsored by David Nelson, but then left behind his organization behind to join the ForMor corporate team.
Obviously he was not making enough money. Later he decided to go back in the field and become a distributor. What is interesting was ForMor took some high volume distributors away from Ragon Moore, and created a new leg outside of Ragon Moore.

Now Mr. Moore (brought the idea of the 15-45 compensation plan to ForMor, his ID number is 1 and was always promised that everyone would be in his downline. ForMor broke their promise with Ragon Moore, which hurt him deeply and he was no longer visible at any of the ForMor functions.

At the meeting in November 2008, Todd Bates admitted to the entire group present, that he was not making the income he was telling everyone he was making and emphasized the need to change the comp plan.

Now, ForMor knew exactly what Todd Bates was earning, yet they allowed him to make false income claims on conference calls and at meetings all over the country.

James Abbey…

James Abbey could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates that he was not making enough money.

Mr. Bates went into the back office in ForMor and moved Kevin Casanova from under himself and placed him under James Abbey giving Mr. Abbey the volume needed to qualify for the Double diamond Elite bonus.

James Abbey earned that extra $1500 check the old fashion way…it was given to him.

Kevin Casanova…could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates he was not making enough money to stick with the program. Mr. Bates went into the ForMor back office and once again moved volume from directly under James Abbey and placed it under Kevin Casanova so he could now qualify to get paid the extra $1500.

This information was common knowledge among the distributors who actually earned their Double Diamond Elite bonus. It infuriated them to learn their checks became smaller because a couple of individuals, who did not earn the bonus, joined this prestigious group, which lowered their pay out from the bonus pool.

David Boldenwhile Dr. Harry Elwardt and Al Sewell were attending ForMor University, David Bolden approached them with an offer.

He explained that he was going to sign up a new distributor in Russia and that this distributor was responsible for all the volume that he and Dan Hobbs had with their last MLM company. (in Case your Wondering Why Dan Hobbs showed up.. I mean he is VERY bad at Marketing, yet he is touted as a Marketing Guru.. there HAD to be OTHER connections.. I Get Internet Markeing and Believe Me Dan Hobbs DOES NOT.. he Does not even own his own dotcom but brags about being able to Market you.. Dan Hobbs can only market with hate, discrimination and lies.... In My Informed, Experienced .. Opinion)

David Bolden's idea was to sign this person under Al Sewell and with Dr. Elwardt’s assistance of introducing the DPAs to Russia; it would be a win win for everyone.

His only requirement for this to happen was for Dr. Elwardt to approve to move his entire downline under David Bolden.

He completed the meeting by saying, "don’t let anyone else know about this."

Dr. Elwardt, at the time, saw no problem with this move and approved it with his sponsor Todd Bates. The move took place immediately, the Russian distributor was signed up under Al Sewell and then the Russians started pouring into the company…WRONG!

One month went by…two months…three months and so on. Not one person signed up under this Russian. Now, who benefits the most from the termination of Al Sewell and Dr. Elwardt? David Bolden Does...

So, you can see shenanigans like this have been going on for some time. ForMor has their favorites and allows their favorites freedom to do whatever they want. And if anyone opposes ForMorthey will just cut their legs out from under them. (Kind of Like a Supplement Mafai or an MLM Cartel)

Rumor has it that when Chris Gingrasso announced on a leaders conference call that Dr. Harry's termination letter was mailed out… that all these leaders actually cheered on the phone.

Why is this? They all loved Dr. Harry when they were using him to get rich, and then when they had sucked the life from his business they simply removed him. DO NOT doubt that YOU will BE Next.

There is NOT One Reason to Trust ANYONE at the Corporate Level or Top Cronies at ForMor Internation, if they will do this to Top Distributors, they will do this to you.

ForMor International, Magician Chris Gingrasso and all those Elite Boys at ForMOR are not of Integrity and if you build your business at ForMor International well then you are Wasting your Time, your money, Your Family's Time, and you are NOT building a Future..

It is Only a Matter of Time before ForMor International.. Stan Goss, Michael Goss, and Chris Gingrasso... and the Gang of Thieves at ForMor International Terminate YOU...
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ForMor says that you can be your own boss

ForMor says that you can be your own boss and own your own company…but who actually owns that company. It is obvious you work for ForMor and they own your business and can fire you at anytime for any reason.

ForMor says you can build a residual check that can pay you for a lifetime and you can pass that check to your family if something should happen…but in all actuality, they can strip you or your family of that money at anytime for any reason.

ForMor International Lies, are You Willing to Take the Risk?

Dr. Harry Elwardt - a SHOCKING Termination By ForMor International Who to Me is the Wolf In Sheeps Clothing

Dr. Harry Elwardt was the Driving Force of ForMor's Public Relations. ForMor International spoke highly of Dr. Harry all the Time, they used Harry as their "Dr" Figure to Promote ForMor, to Give them Credibility. He Seemed to me as the Only Real Visible Force at ForMor, especially on the Internet.
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Dr. Harry Elwardt fit into this role that ForMor Needed nicely as long as ForMor was making big money and it seems to me that when ForMor sales started to decline due to competition in the market, lack of integrity at ForMor, and a disgraceful pay plan change by Dan Hobbs, play pretend marketing guru.. well ForMor need some dough, so they Terminated the Infamous Dr. Harry who had become the Face of ForMor to MOST.. anyone that could use a computer that is.
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Dr. Harry Elwardt served on the Distributor Advisory Board as well as the Medical Advisory Board. He was responsible for the sales of over 200 DPAs to ForMor distributors as well as the certification of training of over 600 ForMor distributors.
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After a meeting in November 2008, which Dr. Elwardt was not invited to, the decision was made to move away from helping people with their health issues, to focus on the financial opportunity and to change the pay plan after 13 years from the 15/45 to a 10/20.
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In March 2009, Dr. Elwardt made the decision to go to another company but to leave his ForMor business as is to collect the residual income he created for years to come.
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He even notified all of the ForMor top leaders and company owners of his plan to make this move based on their new direction which no longer fit into his plans to win the war against heart disease. Just sixty days later, ForMor terminated his position, taking away his check and said he was cross-recruiting, but never provided any proof.
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This WILL happen to Every Single One of you.. No matter what your opinion of Dr. Harry is, you have to admit he is a Down Line building machine, you could be Dr. Harry. Years building a business for you, for your family and one day the Big - Greedy Boys, the Wolves in Sheeps Clothing at ForMor International with a Bible Scripture ready for every occasion, well, they WILL cut you off at the knees with NO REMORSE and you will Legally, it seems, Get NOTHING.
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and Chris Gingrasso has the Balls to Accuse Me of "Bait and Switch" - this is the Ultimate Bait and Switch and ALL ForMor Distributors will eventually pay the price.
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You See Dr. Harry.. was making some dough.. the kind of money that we all strive for in MLM marketing, and well one day, no warning.. a Magical Policy Change - a Double Crossing from within the doors of ForMor.. and Guess what.. the Greedy Gluttons at ForMor International get to Legally keep his money.
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Harry Elwardt, in a big way created the Money Mine that ForMor International has, and if they will do this to Dr. Harry Elwardt... NOT one of you is off limits.
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One Week or a Decade, your Gone, when they say you are.. no rules... no integrity... no loyalty.. YOU are Dispensable at ForMor International.. Guaranteed.

BIBLE SCRIPTURE to Consider:
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Luke 12:15, "And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth."
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Isaiah 56:11, "Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter."
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Luke 11:39, "And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness."
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(ForMor International to Me)


2 Chorinthians - Chapter 11, 12 through 15

"12 But I will continue doing what I have always done. This will undercut those who are looking for an opportunity to boast that their work is just like ours. 13 These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve. "
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Galatians 6: 7 - 9
7 Don’t be misled—you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. 8 Those who live only to satisfy their own sinful nature will harvest decay and death from that sinful nature. But those who live to please the Spirit will harvest everlasting life from the Spirit. 9 So let’s not get tired of doing what is good. At just the right time we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don’t give up. 10 Therefore, whenever we have the opportunity, we should do good to everyone.."
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Steve Moretta…Formor International Distributor - ForMor Quit Paying Royalty.. ForMor Terminated Steve Moretta .. Questions over All This..

Steve Moretta was a Platinum Diamond with the majority of his business being in Latin America countries. ForMor International asked him to open up Mexico for them and promised he would receive an override on every bottle purchased in Mexico.
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One day, after Steve spent a great deal of time opening Mexico, ForMor quit paying the royalty. When Steve complained…ForMor terminated him (and his wife’s position) taking away (their) residual checks which they had worked years to create.
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(Steve is building his own network marketing company. His wife was reinstated in ForMor. I wonder if it has anything to do with an agreement of Steve purchasing products from ForMor owners that are sold outside of the ForMor downline?
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Steve is building a competing network marketing company. Why was his wife reinstated? Is this capricious? Is this fair? I wonder what the “business deal” really is?
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Dr. J. Joseph Prendergrast - Formor International Distributor Terminated

Dr. J. Joseph Prendergrast…was the Chief Medical Officer with ForMor and supported ForMor by speaking around the country about arginine. When Dr. Prendergrast discovered the arginine product that ForMor had formulated did not contain the 5 grams of arginine…he immediately resigned from being the Chief Medical Officer. ForMor then terminated his distributor position taking away his residual check which he was receiving from all his patients being on the product.
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Mark Rosales and Digital Pulsewave Technology

Mark Rosales introduced the Digital Pulsewave technology to ForMor through Meridian Medical and later through Medicore. Mark Rosales was also a Platinum Diamond in ForMor. He also had a contract to receive royalties on every machine that was sold. One day ForMor decided to cancel the contract and when Mark complained they terminated his distributorship, took away his residual check and said he was cross-recruiting…again without providing any proof.
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James Abbey of ForMor International says that ForMor NEVER does this.. so This blog is exploring some of those that have had this done to them at ForMor, some VERY big Players with VERY big Paychecks..
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If ForMor International has Terminated Your Distributorship email me your story at Crystal@CrystalCox.com and Get Heard.
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Does ForMor Really Steal Downlines? The Shirley Headley Story - One Widow's Fight to Keep her Checks

Shirley Headley…her husband, Jack Headley, built his Formor International business to the Diamond level (this was in the very beginning of ForMor in November 1996) and he was receiving a nice check for his effort.

Unfortunately he passed away, (seven months after he sponsored David Nelson) but the good news is the check (kept) going to Shirley as long as she maintained the qualification, which she did.

ForMor owners would frequently talk about how great network marketing was in that Shirley could receive this residual income from the efforts of her husband.

It was truly a blessing to her.

(Several years later) ForMor decided it was not fair that she was getting all this money (and that she was not really doing anything for it) and transferred (a good portion of her) downline to under someone else and she no longer received the (substantial) check that (the distributorship was producing.) (When she inquired about where the downline had gone, she was just given no satisfactory answer.)

(Shirley hired David G. Eisenstein, an MLM attorney, to try to recover her lost downline. Eisenstein wrote a letter to ForMor. Here is part of the response that Michael Goss wrote back on February 17, 2006 as President of ForMor:
Gosses Quotes are in Blue.
Mr. Eisenstein,

ForMor has acted in accordance with the Terms and Conditions of our Distributor Agreement and our published Policies and Procedures. At no time have we deprived Mrs. Headley of any remunerations due her. In fact, we have allowed her to continue to draw income even though she is and has been, in violation of the Distributor Agreement since the death of Jack.”

This response from Mr. Goss demonstrates the arbitrary and capricious manner in which ForMor owners manage the company. If Mrs. Headley was in violation, then why did ForMor make the decision to continue to pay her from 1998 until 2006?

That’s 8 years! Do you think they liked the good “press” about how great ForMor was in helping this widow and how beautiful network marketing could be when one is able to inherit a distributorship?

Here’s more from Michael Goss: “Next, please understand that the organization from which Mrs. Headley benefits, is not due to her efforts, nor the efforts of her husband. When Jack died, there was only a small organization in place. Since his death, Mrs. Headley has seen fit to do nothing to build or sustain the organization. The organization was the result of the efforts of David Nelson and others, whose efforts caused Mrs. Headley tremendous benefit.”

What does this mean exactly, “not due to the efforts of her husband”? Didn’t Jack, through his efforts, sponsor David Nelson. Isn’t this how network marketing works? Jack died 7 months after he sponsored David Nelson.

At that time, David Nelson was earning over $25,000 per month from a very large organization. To say that there was “only a small organization in place” is simply not factual.

Mrs. Headley consistently contributed on a monthly basis to co-op advertising to support the building efforts of her downline. She worked in connection with her upline Ragon Moore to qualify and manage her inherited business.

For Michael Goss to write that “Mrs. Headley has seen fit to do nothing to build or sustain the organization” is clearly not factual.

Michael Goss also wrote: “Your client has benefited to the tune of just under $1,000,000. Roughly ninety-nine percent of that was received after the death of Jack. That was received, even though she was in breach of the agreement, because of our good will as a company. As you probably know, we have a right to recover that money, since she was in breach of the agreement at the time she earned it.”

If Mrs. Headley really was in breach of the agreement, why was she not terminated early on?
My Guess is ForMor simply let it go on long enough to benefit them.

Why would ForMor pay out almost $1,000,000 to a distributor who was in breach of the agreement? Does that make sense? Do you think that she truly was in breach of the agreement? Is Michael Goss inferring that ForMor is going to go after the money that this widow has received over the 8 year period? Is that how you read this?

Michael Goss closing to the letter: “Furthermore, at this time we have chosen not to pursue your client to pay back all bonus money paid since the breach. However, we reserve the right to pursue any and all potential legal remedies in the future.”

Do you read this as a warning to Mrs Headley that she should back off or . . . we are going to come after you? This is a widow who was living off the bonus money that she rightfully inherited from the efforts of her husband Jack.

Of course, on the bottom of the first page of the letter is the ForMor declaration: “The Lord demands fairness in every business deal. He established this principle. – Proverbs 16:11”

Fairness for whom?

Fairness for what?

Who determines the fairness? Do you want Michael Goss to determine the fairness of your network marketing residual income?
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Not Me...
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Crystal L. Cox..
Ex-ForMor Distributor
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More on James Abbey Message to Me

Folks it really is NOT true when James Abbey talks about ForMor never firing people without reason, ForMor International has been firing "heavy hitters" and stealing their down line for a very long time.
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No Notice, No Reason, Just HUGE Downlines Taken by ForMor International and Now they are Desperately Recruiting you unsuspecting New ForMor International Distributors.
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You Could spend a decade building a Huge Downline and without warning, one day it is just gone..
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Policies and Procedures at ForMor International are changed often it seems like, they are ignored, at times, for years until the Distributor makes big money and then ForMor Simply Takes the Money.... NO Notice, No Reason .. just Greed, Lack of Integrity and a serious lack of respect for the distributors that made them wealthy.
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Got a Tip Or Complaint about Formor International? Email Me at Crystal@CrystalCox.com

QUIT Formor NOW Before You Build a Downline they WILL Steal !!!!