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Sunday, December 26, 2010

Investigative Blogger, Ex-Formor International Crystal Cox Rants on Dan Hobbs attack on Cardio Cocktail Consumers.

Dan Hobbs, Formor International Script to All Formor International Distributors to rip off Cardio Cocktail Consumers. My Comments are in Quote.. or in Blue Below. I just Can't Help it..

" Script for Talking to Distributors About the Cardio Cocktail Price Increase

Some background on the price increase. Where did it all begin?

When Dan Hobbs Showed up at Formor International - the Pay Plan Went Down, the Price of Cardio Cocktail went up... and the Followers Followed. Many worried family members called me saying that Dan Hobbs had Revivals to Recruit Cardio Cocktail, Formor International Distributors and they were worried of family.

At Formor Internatinal it Begins and Ends with PURE Greed..
About 17 months ago, ForMor lowered the price of Cardio Cocktail from $69.95, to $39.95 at
the request of the leaders in the Distributor force. Now, some leaders didn’t really agree, but
when the vote was made, it was pretty unanimous.

Cardio Cocktail Was ALWAYS too high Priced and the Only reason Greedy Formor International lowered the price of Cardio Cocktail was because tons of people were leaving Formor International and joining Good Life International. As the Liquid Arginine Product at Good Life International was not only almost half the price but also has sugar free options, really has 5 grams of L-Arginine, has 5000 IU of Vitamin D as well as 100 mg of Resveratrol and is a far Superior Product then the Formor International Liquid Arginine Supplement Called Cardio Cocktail. And Good Life International pays better, supports eCommerce and supports their Distributors.

So, the company dropped the price and sales plummeted.

Sales Plummeted.. WOW .. so Glad to Hear it.. Well Formor Sucks, they lie - cheat and steal from their Formor International Distributors. And Good Life International's product was better and a Sugar Free Liquid Arginine Supplement, that is Why Cardio Cocktail Sales Plummeted.
Paychecks, which are based on BV, also plummeted. In hindsight, I’d have to say that everyone came to this decision out of fear….because one little company had a lower price, we all made a very poor decision. It was a bad decision for distributors and company alike.

Formor International paychecks went up.. as the Fired top Distributors like Elizabeth Owens.. and Stole the downline.. Formor International Distributor Paychecks plummeted in stats alone because they left Formor International by the thousands to Join Good Life International.
1. We lowered the perceived value of an incredible product, with a staggering amount of science behind it…to the same level as the jungle juice companies.

What a Bunch of Bullshit, Formor International has NOTHING to do with Dr. Louis Ignarro's Nobel Prize Winning Science.. it's L-Arginine.. it's Cheap.. The Above Statement is a Total Crock.
They are some of the biggest companies in the industry with nice-tasting juice with absolutely no science to warrant selling them for one penny more than orange juice costs.

Bull. .L-Arginine is the Science and has NOTHING to do with Formor.. they buy it bulk.. it is what it is.. anyone can add it to their "jungle juice" - the Point is does that company have honor, integrity.. do they stand by their distributors.. do they lie - do they derail your online business.. do they fire you and steal your downline.. NOT Science.. INTEGRITY is what matters..
Think about it:

(a) Cardio Cocktail has Nobel Prize winning science behind it’s main ingredient, l-arginine.

Yes and this has NOTHING to Do with the Corrupt, Greedy Formor International Mafia.
(b) There have been tens of thousands of studies and research papers done showing the positive benefits of l-arginine on the Cardio Vascular System.

Yes and this has NOTHING to Do with the Corrupt, Greedy Formor International Mafia.

(c) Nobel Laureate, Dr. Louis Ignarro wrote a book entitled “NO More Heart Disease” touting the incredible benefits of l-arginine.

Yes and this has NOTHING to Do with the Corrupt, Greedy Formor International Mafia.
(d) Dr. John Cooke, head of the Stanford Medical Center Cardio Vascular Unit wrote a book called “The Cardio Vascular CURE” promoting the power of l-arginine!

Yes and this has NOTHING to Do with the Corrupt, Greedy Formor International Mafia.
Cardio Cocktail is too valuable a product to have ever sold for $39.95 for a one-month
supply! Shame on us!

Yes SHAME ON YOU.. for charging double what your competition does.. Shame on You for Stealing Downlines and for Firing hard working distributors who spent their life making your Company.. Shame on you for Cutting Pay and Raising Prices.. You, Dan Hobbs, Michael Goss, Stanley Goss and Formor International are Thugs, Thieves, Liars and Have no Integrity what so every..

2. At the same time, we cut ForMor’s margin to a level that was below the amount
necessary to sustain long-term profitability. ForMor was betting sales would increase
dramatically because of the lower $39.95 price. That did not happen.

NOPE did not happen because Dan Hobbs, Formor International lowered the price too late and the competition, Good Life International already out sold them.. it also did not happen because Dan Hobbs, Formor International lied to us, cheated us.. bullied us .. fired distributors and stole their downlines.. and Word Got OUT.. so Thousands QUIT..
3. The third negative result of dropping the BV from 50 to 25BV was that Distributors
took a drastic cut in pay. Top Distributors had also believed the lower price would
stimulate much greater unit sales of Cardio Cocktail, offsetting the drop in BV. Again,
that did not happen.

Dan Hobbs, Formor International FIRED Top Distributors and Stole their Life's Work.
When you cut commissions in half, good salespeople lose their incentive to sell.

They lose their will to brand your company because they know at any moment you will FIRE them and STEAL their Life's work.. Good Companies have Good Salespeople because it is Win Win.. At Formor International it is WIN for Formor International and lose for Formor International Distributors.

They have to work twice as hard (sell twice as many bottles & sponsor twice as many people)
to make the exact same amount of money, that’s not freedom!

They have to work twice as hard because GREEDY Dan Hobbs cut the pay plan..

Remember, ForMor did not come up with the idea of cutting the price. That idea was initiated by distributors who were afraid of losing more business to a lower price competitor.

See.. Proof. .Formor was afraid of losing distributors so they cut the Price of Cardio Cocktail. . NOTHING to do with Science or other Gibberish in this Letter.. it was out of FEAR that Good Life International would take their business.. and WE Certainly WILL.. No Matter what you price your low grade - high priced.. product at..

In Cardio Cocktail, we have what may be the greatest product in all of network marketing history and 18 months ago we all decided cut the price to $39.95 a bottle.

Flat Out WRONG .. Dan Hobbs ... Cardio Cocktail and the Formor International Pay Plan Sucks..
That’s the same price range as all those “jungle fruit juices” that have absolutely no science whatsoever behind them! Cutting the price of Cardio Cocktail was a mistake.

In hindsight, all of our productive leaders agree.

BULL.. Cardio Cocktail is TOO High Priced.. Formor is GREEDY and NO One Agrees with the Lies that Dan Hobbs is Telling YOU..

So, where do we go from here?

Good question that Formor International Dan Hobbs asks all of you Formor International Distributors. And I Crystal L. Cox, Good Life International Distributor have the Perfect answer .. You email me at Crystal@CrystalCox.com and Join me at Good Life International where you will pay near half the price of Cardio Cocktail for a way better product.. where you will be treated with respect and where you will NOT be FIRED at random and your Entire Downline STOLEN..

Note HERE .. this is NOT Bait and Switch.. THIS IS SWITCH.. Formor is Corrupt.. they are bullies.. we put everything into building their brand and our downline and they disrespected us..

There is one thing for sure…..this is a time for everyone to join together and pull in the same
direction! It’s a time for good leadership; not wimpyness or waffling; not griping or groaning.
It’s a time for being positive and pulling together in the same direction.

Yes Dan Hobbs .. there ONE THING for Sure.. it is Time for all Formor International Distributor to leave Formor RIGHT now and to Join me at Good Life International..

Change is a PAIN IN THE NECK....always. But, consider the alternative. ForMor and Cardio
Cocktail and our Distributors must survive and prosper!

Dan Hobbs is the Pain in the Neck.. You do not have to Make Dan Hobbs or the Formor International Mafia wealthy in order for you to build a prosperous long term business FOR YOU..

They say the definition of insanity is: “To keep doing the same thing, the same way, yet
expecting a different result." Watching ForMor and its Distributors make less money each
month is not an option we can continue with.

Now, let me give you an example of insanity: “Leaving the price of Cardio Cocktail at $39.95.” That would be a decision to willingly go out of business. Totally insane!

Let me Give you an Example of INSANITY.. Staying as a Formor International Distributor for one more minute.. Quick Email me and Jump Ship... Crystal@CrystalCox.com

Again, selling Cardio Cocktail at $39.95 created two problems:

1. Company profit too small to survive long-term

2. Distributor pay was cut in half by dropping the BV
(which de-motivated the sales force)

What a Crock..
We will not continue like this!

Thank God.. Formor International soon to go bankrupt.. as GOD intended..

Let me give you an exaggerated example of what is happening, so people will be able to see
the picture more clearly.

How would you like to buy a brand new $50,000 Mercedes Benz for only $5,000? Well, let’s say Mercedes actually decided to see how fast they could sell cars at $5,000!!!

Question: When Mercedes figures out that selling $50,000 cars for only $5,000 does not provide enough money to stay in business…folks, would you get angry & think they were crazy for raising the price back to the proper level? Of course not!

This Gibberish is a Crock. Dan Hobbs and Formor are desperate to keep your business.


Question: So, which was the worst decision?
A. Lowering the price and jeopardizing their profitability? Or,
B. Raising the price to re-capture profitability & stay in business?

Neither Matters.. Formor International has No Honor, No Integrity and this Letter packed with lies is an over the top desperation to Keep you at Formor International and to make more money for Formor International.. We Don't Need Formor to stay in business.. why bother.. they will just make Millions on your Downline .. then FIRE YOU..

Certainly, lowering the price in the first place was the wrong decision. It’s especially easy to
come to that conclusion when we are talking about Mercedes….and not about ForMor!
The truth is, ForMor is facing the exact same situation.

Bull.. .Cardio Cocktail does not need to be $70 a bottle .. this is Ridiculous..

Lowering the price was the wrong thing to do, and raising the price back up is the wisest course of action. No one is denying that raising the price of Cardio Cocktail may be a tough pill for some folks to swallow….but there can be absolutely no doubt about it being the wisest thing to do.

You to NOT have to Swallow this "tough pill" .. just QUIT Formor International and NEVER ever Buy Cardio Cocktail.. that simple NO Tough Pill to swallow..

For those who don’t want to spend (or cannot afford) $69.95 per bottle…..we have a great
alternative. ARGENIX, the original 5gram/day, liquid l-arginine product, with great new taste,
l-citrulline, antioxidants and fulvic minerals is still available for $39.95/25BV per bottle!
There are those who are worried about our customers and how they will handle the price
increase. I am concerned about that too.

But, please listen to this, if we keep the price of Cardio Cocktail at $39.95, we will soon be out of business. That is not an option we will surrender to!

Sounds alittle Desperate there Dan Hobbs.. Just SHUT Up .. Go Out of Business and be a Follower as God intended you to be.. you can sign up with Good Life International under me..
So, we must look to the future.

The future? Yes….and our future is bright!

BULL .. you sound Desperate, Pathetic and Going Down in Flames..

This may come as a shock to those with tunnel vision, but over 98% of the population of the U.S.A. does not even know that Cardio Cocktail exists or that (for one crazy period of time) it once sold for $39.95 per bottle! Our unreached market is ENORMOUS!!!

SHOCKING and Who Cares.. Why should you bother getting the word out to make Dan Hobbs and Formor International more money while they can steal your downline at any time.. if they did to HUGE distributors like Elizabeth Owens and her husband .. and Dr. Harry.. well they will certainly do it to you.. Don't Bother Joining in the First Place..

When we tell that 98% that there are $300.00 worth of retail ingredients in Cardio Cocktail, but
they can buy it from ForMor for only $69.95 a bottle, plus shipping….they’re going to think it’s
a really great deal! That is, of course, unless YOU don’t think it’s a great deal. You are the
carrier of the message. Is your “glass half-empty, or is it half-full?” Half-full is great….but
having your glass overflowing is even better!

As we move forward and reach out to new prospects to build our businesses bigger and stronger than before, what will be the biggest objection to Cardio Cocktail ?

The biggest objection to any nutritional product is always PRICE. It doesn’t matter whether the
price is $9.95, $39.95, $69.95 or $99.95…price is always the biggest objection.

It’s important for us to realize though, that $69.95/bottle used to be the price of Cardio Cocktail.

It’s also important to realize that we sold almost 4 times as many bottles per month at $69.95 as
we currently sell at $39.95. So, it’s foolish to say that $69.95 is going to be a big problem!

When we were selling Cardio Cocktail for $65.00 to $69.95, our other big objections were:

(1)Bad Taste, (2) Diarrhea & tummy aches,
(3) Unpopular Sweeteners, (4) Dumpy Bottle and
(5) Plain Jane Labels.

Come on .. Great Product.. Great Pay.. Thats what you want right?

Now, we’ll have the advantage of selling a new Cardio Cocktail that, tastes great, has a new
sweetening system, is in a great shaped bottle with beautiful labels, and if you take it according
to the instructions on the bottle, diarrhea and tummy aches will be things of the past! These are
all great big advantages!

In addition, many people cried out for a plug and play recruiting system. We now have one of
the finest in the industry!

Okay, but what if the $69.95 price is still the objection?

This is TOO much money.. DO NOT BUY Cardio Cocktail .. Do your Homework, think for yourself..

If you’re talking to a prospect and the $69.95 price is still the objection, you simply say, “Let me
show you how to get your product ‘free.’” We call it referral income.

We tell them that by simply referring other people who will use the products, they can pay for part, or all of their personal products!

During the past 18 months, part of our problem with selling that concept was that at $39.95,
people had to refer enough customers to buy 33 bottles @ 25BV to cover their cost of qualifying
($160.00) with 4 bottles of Cardio.

The good news is, that at $69.95, to cover the cost of qualifying with 2 bottles ($139.90), you
only have to find enough customers to purchase 15 bottles! It is much easier to find enough
people to buy 15 bottles, than to buy 33! Obtaining “free” product just got twice as easy!
Okay, but what if the prospect doesn’t want to refer other people?

In that case, we have another great product that still gives 5grams/day of l-arginine and is full of
anti-oxidants. It’s called ARGENIX !

Improved-Taste ARGENIX is also the answer for current customers who wish to cancel their
order of Cardio Cocktail because of the price increase.

Argenix is only $39.95 on Auto-Delivery and it contains:
5g/day L-Arginine………..L-Citruline
Antioxidants…………Fulvic Minerals
and it has a Great New Taste!

So, when trying to sell ARGENIX to a new prospect, how would you
incorporate the Application Fee into your presentation? This is a stumbling
block for many people.

What a great question! First, I need to say that to help our prospects see the value of becoming a
distributor and get them signed up easier, the Application Fee is being reduced to $10.00!
How’s that for good news?

When selling any ForMor product, ALWAYS start with the RETAIL PRICE! Beginning with
the Retail Price allows you to be a HERO when you drop the price and give the prospect a
BREAK by becoming a Distributor to buy at WHOLESALE!

Here’s what you say:

Mr. Prospect, buying ARGENIX at the $59.95 Retail Price is a real bargain. But if you
become a Distributor and pay a $10.00 Application Fee, then you qualify to buy on autodelivery,
paying only $39.95/bottle for ARGENIX. That’s a savings of $20/bottle….and
the Application Fee is more than saved back when you buy your very 1st bottle!�

Auto-Qualifying Distributors at Highest Past Rank Level:

In addition to earning twice as much commission on every customer and distributor who
continues to buy Cardio Cocktail ….

In addition to only needing to sponsor half as many people to achieve any financial goal that you
set…..

ForMor is going to auto-Qualify every Distributor who meets their personal Qualification of
100BV, during the months of January, February and March of 2010.

Distributors will be auto-Qualified at the highest Rank Level they EVER achieved in the New
Millennium Comp Plan.

That is, if you’re now a Ruby, and you were once a Diamond, you will auto-Qualified and paid
at the Diamond Rank Level, as long as you meet your 100BV personal requirement during Jan.,
Feb., and March.

Can see how this is going to be a really positive transition for those Distributors who get on
the ball and start promoting this change?

What a Bunch of Hot Air..
The Importance of Strong Leadership in Tough Times:
Truly, how well these changes go over is all about leadership. If you provide strong leadership
to your team, the changes will result in a big increase in pay. If you provide weak leadership,
you may be in trouble!

Weak Leadership for example would be to send a desperate letter to all Formor International Distributors begging you to please pay more for Cardio Cocktail and to Please tell others to pay more as well so we LEADERS at Formor International can stay filthy rich on your backs..

It is said that there are 3 groups of people: (1) Leaders, (2) Followers and (3) Gripers.
Leaders Lead….that's what God made them to do.

Lets see.. this letter sounds like Dan Hobbs.. is a weak follower and a whiny griper to me..
They are a SMALL percentage of the population. Leaders see the vision and point the way for others. Leaders have a depth of courage that is not found in the other two groups.

Followers Follow…that's what God made them to do.

Are you Kidding.. God intended Followers to Follow.. Really Formor Distributors how much of this can you take.. ??
They are a HUGE percentage of the population. Followers are the wonderful folks who make up the vast majority, and are the backbone of every organization.

They follow Leaders whose vision is big enough. Followers look for leaders who clearly see the vision and can point the way for them. Followers draw their motivation and courage from their relationships with strong leaders and other motivated team-players.

Gripers Gripe…that's what they do….and God didn’t have nothin’ to do with it! To Gripers,
there’s only one kind of news…..and it’s all bad!

OMG .. this letter is full of bad news.. does that mean God had nothing to do with it.. Surely the Bible scripture at the bottom of Top Formor International Distributor's your Fired letter.. is God Inspired..

Fortunately, Gripers are only a SMALL percentage of the population….but they sure do make a lot of noise!!!!

YEP .. I am a Noisy - Truth Telling GRIPER.. and Guess What Jackass Dan HOBBS .. I am in leader in your product and company name in Internet Marketing.. so Follow Me as God intended..
Gripers see the vision too, but it’s not attainable to them because they exaggerating the significance of EVERY obstacle they see. What they succeed at, for the most part, is distracting, confusing and depressing people who would otherwise be good Followers. It is the Griper’s ability to sway Followers that often makes us confuse them with Leaders.

So, to build an effective, growing organization, this should be our “bottom line” when it
comes to dealing with Leaders, Followers and Gripers:

Yes QUICK build a growing organization .. SO Formor International can fire you and Take YOUR money to build their "effective, growing organization" ..

- If you’re qualified to lead…great!
- If you want to follow…terrific!
- But, if all you want to do is GRIPE….shut up & get out of the way!

I Agree Dan Hobbs.. Formor International Cannot compete with the price or pay plan of Good Life International.. So Give Up NOW.. quit Griping Dan Hobbs.. Shut up and Get out of the Way..
Gripers are the destroyers, they are the cancers, of every organization. Identify them;
correct them; or cut them out of the organization if they will not stop spreading negativity.
Let’s face it: Change can be traumatic.

Even good Leaders and good Followers may react negatively when changes come....at first. It's to be expected. But as leaders see the logic in the changes, as they look at the “bigger picture,” they rise up, point the way and lead people toward the greater good.

ForMor stands for many good things and it must continue to survive! That means ForMor must change. Albert Einstein said: "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

It is so important that we, as leaders, come to grips with this fundamental truth. Leadership is never easy, because when you strive to lead people to higher ground, you represent the courage that other people do not have. Those people who are controlled by fear, always scream the loudest when confronted with change or any kind of challenge.

As Leaders, we must have the courage that others do not have...it's the most basic part of our job
description.

We must help others see things from the proper perspective and “help them put the
shoe on the right foot.” The ability to do these things makes us worthy to lead.

By adjusting prices, ForMor made a good, but very tough decision that:
-will allow it to be profitable
-will allow it to continue providing life-changing products, and
-will re-establish a worthy value on the greatest nutritional product available today
-will allow distributors to earn the kind of money that our efforts deserve!
All of this will happen…..as long as we give this decision our support.
In Closing:

As the famous World War II hero, General George S. Patton once said:
"You must be single-minded. Make a decision, and drive for that one thing on
which you have decided."


On January 1st, the prices will be raised so ForMor and its Distributors can not only survive, but prosper.

That’s what [LIVE.FREE] is all about! I will not be "wishy-washy" and have my spirit brought down by those who have a gripe, but no vision. I can still love them. They can still be my friends. They can join me if they wish, or leave if they choose. But they cannot steal my vision for success."

Well there You Have It General Dan Hobbs from the Formor International Mafai has Spoken NOW you Followers DO as GOD intended and Sit Down and Shut up and FOLLOW..
Live Free - WHAT?
Formor International fires top distributors for NO Reason.

Formor International Steals your Money and your Entire Downline.

Formor International lies to their Formor International Distributors Constantly.

Formor International is Corrupt. Dan Hobbs and Michael Goss Constantly Lie, Cheat and Steal and do it in the Name of God.. WHAT?

Source of Above Joke: Dan Hobbs Directly to Formor International Distributors

More on my Thoughts on this Cardio Cocktail Scam, this Bull and Flat Out Lies sent out by in another post at FormorSucks.com .

Dan Hobbs is a Real Ass and this Letter to Formor International Cardio Cocktail Distributors shows just what kind of Cruel, Heartless, Greedy, Arrogant Ass that Dan Hobbs Formor International really is..

Crystal L. Cox
Ex-Formor International Distributor
Now Good Life International Distributor
ArginineDrink.com ( My Blog on a Higher Quality, Cheaper Liquid Arginine Supplement - with Good Life International a Company who actually has integrity.

For More on Good Life International Click Below
Crystal L. Cox
Good Life International



Dan Hobbs, Formor International Tips on Screwing Over Cardio Cocktail Customers.


Dan Hobbs, Formor International Cardio Cocktail Scam

Dan Hobbs, Formor International Gives Advice on how to Screw over Cardio Cocktail Customers and Distributors.

Seriously, a Letter from Dan Hobbs Formor International - Revival Specialist to ALL Formor International Distributors on how to Run Your Cardio Cocktail Scam.

Dan Hobbs - Pompous Ass Rants about Gripers and well pretty much slams the Cardio Cocktail Consumer, all the While Justifying Outrageous prices so that Formor International - Dan Hobbs, Michael Goss and Stanley Goss can get filthy rich from our hard work... and if the price difference is not enough to fill the Formor International mafia GREED, well they will FIRE you and Steal Your Entire Downline... NO Matter Who You are.

Dan Hobbs, Formor International Script to All Formor International Distributors to rip off Cardio Cocktail Consumers.

" Script for Talking to Distributors About the Cardio Cocktail Price Increase

Some background on the price increase. Where did it all begin?

About 17 months ago, ForMor lowered the price of Cardio Cocktail from $69.95, to $39.95 at
the request of the leaders in the Distributor force. Now, some leaders didn’t really agree, but
when the vote was made, it was pretty unanimous.

So, the company dropped the price and sales plummeted.

Paychecks, which are based on BV, also plummeted. In hindsight, I’d have to say that everyone came to this decision out of fear….because one little company had a lower price, we all made a very poor decision. It was a bad decision for distributors and company alike.

1. We lowered the perceived value of an incredible product, with a staggering amount of science behind it…to the same level as the jungle juice companies.

They are some of the biggest companies in the industry with nice-tasting juice with absolutely no science to warrant selling them for one penny more than orange juice costs.

Think about it:

(a) Cardio Cocktail has Nobel Prize winning science behind it’s main ingredient, l-arginine.

(b) There have been tens of thousands of studies and research papers done showing the positive benefits of l-arginine on the Cardio Vascular System.

(c) Nobel Laureate, Dr. Louis Ignarro wrote a book entitled “NO More Heart Disease” touting the incredible benefits of l-arginine.

(d) Dr. John Cooke, head of the Stanford Medical Center Cardio Vascular Unit wrote a book called “The Cardio Vascular CURE” promoting the power of l-arginine!

Cardio Cocktail is too valuable a product to have ever sold for $39.95 for a one-month
supply! Shame on us!

2. At the same time, we cut ForMor’s margin to a level that was below the amount
necessary to sustain long-term profitability. ForMor was betting sales would increase
dramatically because of the lower $39.95 price. That did not happen.

3. The third negative result of dropping the BV from 50 to 25BV was that Distributors
took a drastic cut in pay. Top Distributors had also believed the lower price would
stimulate much greater unit sales of Cardio Cocktail, offsetting the drop in BV. Again,
that did not happen.

When you cut commissions in half, good salespeople lose their incentive to sell. They
have to work twice as hard (sell twice as many bottles & sponsor twice as many people)
to make the exact same amount of money, that’s not freedom! Remember, ForMor did
not come up with the idea of cutting the price. That idea was initiated by distributors
who were afraid of losing more business to a lower price competitor.

In Cardio Cocktail, we have what may be the greatest product in all of network marketing history and 18 months ago we all decided cut the price to $39.95 a bottle.

That’s the same price range as all those “jungle fruit juices” that have absolutely no science whatsoever behind them! Cutting the price of Cardio Cocktail was a mistake.

In hindsight, all of our productive leaders agree.

So, where do we go from here?

There is one thing for sure…..this is a time for everyone to join together and pull in the same
direction! It’s a time for good leadership; not wimpyness or waffling; not griping or groaning.
It’s a time for being positive and pulling together in the same direction.

Change is a PAIN IN THE NECK....always. But, consider the alternative. ForMor and Cardio
Cocktail and our Distributors must survive and prosper!

They say the definition of insanity is: “To keep doing the same thing, the same way, yet
expecting a different result." Watching ForMor and its Distributors make less money each
month is not an option we can continue with.

Now, let me give you an example of insanity: “Leaving the price of Cardio Cocktail at $39.95.” That would be a decision to willingly go out of business. Totally insane!

Again, selling Cardio Cocktail at $39.95 created two problems:

1. Company profit too small to survive long-term

2. Distributor pay was cut in half by dropping the BV
(which de-motivated the sales force)

We will not continue like this!

Let me give you an exaggerated example of what is happening, so people will be able to see
the picture more clearly.

How would you like to buy a brand new $50,000 Mercedes Benz for only $5,000? Well, let’s say Mercedes actually decided to see how fast they could sell cars at $5,000!!!

Question: When Mercedes figures out that selling $50,000 cars for only $5,000 does not provide
enough money to stay in business…folks, would you get angry & think they were crazy for
raising the price back to the proper level? Of course not!

Question: So, which was the worst decision?
A. Lowering the price and jeopardizing their profitability? Or,
B. Raising the price to re-capture profitability & stay in business?

Certainly, lowering the price in the first place was the wrong decision. It’s especially easy to
come to that conclusion when we are talking about Mercedes….and not about ForMor!
The truth is, ForMor is facing the exact same situation.

Lowering the price was the wrong thing to do, and raising the price back up is the wisest course of action. No one is denying that raising the price of Cardio Cocktail may be a tough pill for some folks to swallow….but there can be absolutely no doubt about it being the wisest thing to do.

For those who don’t want to spend (or cannot afford) $69.95 per bottle…..we have a great
alternative. ARGENIX, the original 5gram/day, liquid l-arginine product, with great new taste,
l-citrulline, antioxidants and fulvic minerals is still available for $39.95/25BV per bottle!
There are those who are worried about our customers and how they will handle the price
increase. I am concerned about that too.

But, please listen to this, if we keep the price of Cardio Cocktail at $39.95, we will soon be out of business. That is not an option we will surrender to!

So, we must look to the future.

The future? Yes….and our future is bright!

This may come as a shock to those with tunnel vision, but over 98% of the population of the U.S.A. does not even know that Cardio Cocktail exists or that (for one crazy period of time) it once sold for $39.95 per bottle! Our unreached market is ENORMOUS!!!

When we tell that 98% that there are $300.00 worth of retail ingredients in Cardio Cocktail, but
they can buy it from ForMor for only $69.95 a bottle, plus shipping….they’re going to think it’s
a really great deal! That is, of course, unless YOU don’t think it’s a great deal. You are the
carrier of the message. Is your “glass half-empty, or is it half-full?” Half-full is great….but
having your glass overflowing is even better!

As we move forward and reach out to new prospects to build our businesses bigger and stronger than before, what will be the biggest objection to Cardio Cocktail ?

The biggest objection to any nutritional product is always PRICE. It doesn’t matter whether the
price is $9.95, $39.95, $69.95 or $99.95…price is always the biggest objection.

It’s important for us to realize though, that $69.95/bottle used to be the price of Cardio Cocktail.

It’s also important to realize that we sold almost 4 times as many bottles per month at $69.95 as
we currently sell at $39.95. So, it’s foolish to say that $69.95 is going to be a big problem!

When we were selling Cardio Cocktail for $65.00 to $69.95, our other big objections were:

(1)Bad Taste, (2) Diarrhea & tummy aches,
(3) Unpopular Sweeteners, (4) Dumpy Bottle and
(5) Plain Jane Labels.

Now, we’ll have the advantage of selling a new Cardio Cocktail that, tastes great, has a new
sweetening system, is in a great shaped bottle with beautiful labels, and if you take it according
to the instructions on the bottle, diarrhea and tummy aches will be things of the past! These are
all great big advantages!

In addition, many people cried out for a plug and play recruiting system. We now have one of
the finest in the industry!

Okay, but what if the $69.95 price is still the objection?

If you’re talking to a prospect and the $69.95 price is still the objection, you simply say, “Let me
show you how to get your product ‘free.’” We call it referral income.

We tell them that by simply referring other people who will use the products, they can pay for part, or all of their personal products!

During the past 18 months, part of our problem with selling that concept was that at $39.95,
people had to refer enough customers to buy 33 bottles @ 25BV to cover their cost of qualifying
($160.00) with 4 bottles of Cardio.

The good news is, that at $69.95, to cover the cost of qualifying with 2 bottles ($139.90), you
only have to find enough customers to purchase 15 bottles! It is much easier to find enough
people to buy 15 bottles, than to buy 33! Obtaining “free” product just got twice as easy!
Okay, but what if the prospect doesn’t want to refer other people?

In that case, we have another great product that still gives 5grams/day of l-arginine and is full of
anti-oxidants. It’s called ARGENIX !

Improved-Taste ARGENIX is also the answer for current customers who wish to cancel their
order of Cardio Cocktail because of the price increase.

Argenix is only $39.95 on Auto-Delivery and it contains:
5g/day L-Arginine………..L-Citruline
Antioxidants…………Fulvic Minerals
and it has a Great New Taste!

So, when trying to sell ARGENIX to a new prospect, how would you
incorporate the Application Fee into your presentation? This is a stumbling
block for many people.

What a great question! First, I need to say that to help our prospects see the value of becoming a
distributor and get them signed up easier, the Application Fee is being reduced to $10.00!
How’s that for good news?

When selling any ForMor product, ALWAYS start with the RETAIL PRICE! Beginning with
the Retail Price allows you to be a HERO when you drop the price and give the prospect a
BREAK by becoming a Distributor to buy at WHOLESALE!

Here’s what you say:

Mr. Prospect, buying ARGENIX at the $59.95 Retail Price is a real bargain. But if you
become a Distributor and pay a $10.00 Application Fee, then you qualify to buy on autodelivery,
paying only $39.95/bottle for ARGENIX. That’s a savings of $20/bottle….and
the Application Fee is more than saved back when you buy your very 1st bottle!�

Auto-Qualifying Distributors at Highest Past Rank Level:

In addition to earning twice as much commission on every customer and distributor who
continues to buy Cardio Cocktail ….

In addition to only needing to sponsor half as many people to achieve any financial goal that you
set…..

ForMor is going to auto-Qualify every Distributor who meets their personal Qualification of
100BV, during the months of January, February and March of 2010.

Distributors will be auto-Qualified at the highest Rank Level they EVER achieved in the New
Millennium Comp Plan.

That is, if you’re now a Ruby, and you were once a Diamond, you will auto-Qualified and paid
at the Diamond Rank Level, as long as you meet your 100BV personal requirement during Jan.,
Feb., and March.

Can see how this is going to be a really positive transition for those Distributors who get on
the ball and start promoting this change?

The Importance of Strong Leadership in Tough Times:
Truly, how well these changes go over is all about leadership. If you provide strong leadership
to your team, the changes will result in a big increase in pay. If you provide weak leadership,
you may be in trouble!

It is said that there are 3 groups of people: (1) Leaders, (2) Followers and (3) Gripers.
Leaders Lead….that's what God made them to do.

They are a SMALL percentage of the population. Leaders see the vision and point the way for others. Leaders have a depth of courage that is not found in the other two groups.

Followers Follow…that's what God made them to do.

They are a HUGE percentage of the population. Followers are the wonderful folks who make up the vast majority, and are the backbone of every organization.

They follow Leaders whose vision is big enough. Followers look for leaders who clearly see the vision and can point the way for them. Followers draw their motivation and courage from their relationships with strong leaders and other motivated team-players.

Gripers Gripe…that's what they do….and God didn’t have nothin’ to do with it! To Gripers,
there’s only one kind of news…..and it’s all bad!

Fortunately, Gripers are only a SMALL percentage of the population….but they sure do make a lot of noise!!!!

Gripers see the vision too, but it’s not attainable to them because they exaggerating the significance of EVERY obstacle they see. What they succeed at, for the most part, is distracting, confusing and depressing people who would otherwise be good Followers. It is the Griper’s ability to sway Followers that often makes us confuse them with Leaders.

So, to build an effective, growing organization, this should be our “bottom line” when it
comes to dealing with Leaders, Followers and Gripers:

- If you’re qualified to lead…great!
- If you want to follow…terrific!
- But, if all you want to do is GRIPE….shut up & get out of the way!

Gripers are the destroyers, they are the cancers, of every organization. Identify them;
correct them; or cut them out of the organization if they will not stop spreading negativity.
Let’s face it: Change can be traumatic.

Even good Leaders and good Followers may react negatively when changes come....at first. It's to be expected. But as leaders see the logic in the changes, as they look at the “bigger picture,” they rise up, point the way and lead people toward the greater good.

ForMor stands for many good things and it must continue to survive! That means ForMor must change. Albert Einstein said: "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

It is so important that we, as leaders, come to grips with this fundamental truth. Leadership is never easy, because when you strive to lead people to higher ground, you represent the courage that other people do not have. Those people who are controlled by fear, always scream the loudest when confronted with change or any kind of challenge.

As Leaders, we must have the courage that others do not have...it's the most basic part of our job
description.

We must help others see things from the proper perspective and “help them put the
shoe on the right foot.” The ability to do these things makes us worthy to lead.

By adjusting prices, ForMor made a good, but very tough decision that:
-will allow it to be profitable
-will allow it to continue providing life-changing products, and
-will re-establish a worthy value on the greatest nutritional product available today
-will allow distributors to earn the kind of money that our efforts deserve!
All of this will happen…..as long as we give this decision our support.
In Closing:

As the famous World War II hero, General George S. Patton once said:
"You must be single-minded. Make a decision, and drive for that one thing on
which you have decided."


On January 1st, the prices will be raised so ForMor and its Distributors can not only survive, but prosper.

That’s what [LIVE.FREE] is all about! I will not be "wishy-washy" and have my spirit brought down by those who have a gripe, but no vision. I can still love them. They can still be my friends. They can join me if they wish, or leave if they choose. But they cannot steal my vision for success."

Well there You Have It General Dan Hobbs from the Formor International Mafai has Spoken NOW you Followers DO as GOD intended and Sit Down and Shut up and FOLLOW..
Live Free - WHAT?
Formor International fires top distributors for NO Reason.

Formor International Steals your Money and your Entire Downline.

Formor International lies to their Formor International Distributors Constantly.

Formor International is Corrupt. Dan Hobbs and Michael Goss Constantly Lie, Cheat and Steal and do it in the Name of God.. WHAT?

Source of Above Joke: Dan Hobbs Directly to Formor International Distributors

More on my Thoughts on this Cardio Cocktail Scam, this Bull and Flat Out Lies sent out by in another post at FormorSucks.com .

Dan Hobbs is a Real Ass and this Letter to Formor International Cardio Cocktail Distributors shows just what kind of Cruel, Heartless, Greedy, Arrogant Ass that Dan Hobbs Formor International really is..

Crystal L. Cox
Ex-Formor International Distributor
Now Good Life International Distributor
ArginineDrink.com ( My Blog on a Higher Quality, Cheaper Liquid Arginine Supplement - with Good Life International a Company who actually has integrity.


Friday, December 17, 2010

Cardio Cocktail COST too Much Money. Formor International Cheats Distributors - Do NOT Join Formor, this is YOUR LIFE.

Look at Formor International 's record... they bring in people and then after they build a HUGE downline, Formor International FIRES THEM.. they Fired Dr. Harry without Cause, they Fired Dr. Elizabeth Owings ...


Formor International is NOT supportive of your eCommerce Business. Formor International steals your customer and web traffic.

Formor International has double standards for distributors that they favor and once you have a large downline they pull out the now famous Formor Policy and Procedures manual and they FIRE you without warning and STEAL YOUR ENTIRE Downline, it does not even go to your upline.

Look at their track record, this is your life. You put years into building your business and the Greed Goss family and other Formor International Cronies reap the reward that you and your family should be enjoy.

And now Formor International has raised the price of Cardio Cocktail Again Out Sheer Greed...

Got a Complaint about how Formor International Treats You?

got a Complaint on Stan Goss or Michael Goss of Formor International.

Email me
EX-Formor International Distributor - QUIT Not FIRED.. though they fired me months after I quit and they refused my resignation.

Crystal L. Cox
Crystal@CrystalCox.com

Monday, August 16, 2010

Formor International is Corrupt. Formor International Takes Entire MLM Distributor Downlines for NO Legal Reason and you have NO Recourse.

So the FDA makes a big deal out of Formor International making "cure claims" but no one seems to care about the illegal behavior at Formor. Formor International breaks the law every day and no one cares.. they steal downlines.. suspend distributors without PAYING them what they owe..

Formor International threatens distributors and even when the ForMor Distributor does what the ForMor mafai tells them to do .. Formor International, still firse.. well suspends see this way Formor International, can STEAL your MONEY and not pay it to your upline.. they keep this Formor International Bait and Switch going on and on.. and well it is highly fraudulent and no one can do a damn thing..

Formor International is above the law and new stories are coming to me all the time. .Yet Formor International is still in business.. so hmmmm..

Formor International definately sucks.. but more then that they lack any morals or decency what so ever and they do this in the name of god as they send you a YOUR SCREWED letter and we win.. and will do as we please and steal your money and with a bible scripture of Righteousness when Formor International is in no way Moral or Ethical in business...

Thursday, April 1, 2010

Formor International - Pay Leslie Turner for the Month Of March.

Say NO - Quit the Formor International Mafia - NOW.

Formor International Harassed and Extorted Leslie Turner, she Said NO.. they fired her.. locked her out of her back office on the Last Day of the Month.. they are Keeping a Nice Chunk of Her Money over this.. and They Will Be Sued this TIME.. and By a LARGE group of US.. Who are NOT going to Take it ANYMORE !!!

3 years we have Been Constantly attacked by Formor International - many Formor International Distributors have told ME Sick Stories of Formor International Stealing their Money... Bullying Them.. Extorting them.. Stealing Domain Names and PUNISHING .. Severely Formor International Distributors WHO not give up EXTREMELY Valuable Domain Names that Formor International has No Legal Right to in ANY Way...

And the Bull about No One has Websites When Everybody Does.. that Formor International PULLS out just when you have started making GOOD Money.. well that is UnEthical at Best.. Fraud - Deception.. Bait and Switch and Plain Ol' Wrong...

Formor International is Stealing Formor International Distributor Leslie Turner's Downline and her Paycheck because she was Smarter then Formor International Golden Boy - Chris Capehart.

Formor International has been Pulling this Unethical Behavior to us for 3 years, and tons of other Distributors.. when Does the Tyranny end at Formor International ?

I for one have Seriously had Enough..

Any other Formor International Distributor's Taken enough ABUSE from Formor International ?

Time for a Class Action Lawsuit - for Harassment, Theft - Discrimination in Policy and Procedures, Discrimination Period, Fraud, Bait and Switch ... Deception and More.. I have heard and Taken Enough from the Evil Formor International.

Posted by
Crystal L. Cox
Mad Dog Blogger....

Wednesday, March 31, 2010

Well Yep it Happened Formor International Chris Capehart was even More Dumb on that SUSPENSION then I Thought.

Chris Capehart Calls Leslie Turner Ex-Formor Distibutor at the end of his workday in Conway Arkansas. He was on the blog JointCocktail.com for 6 Hours before he got the nerve up to make that seriously fumbled call.

Now the Date Chris Capehart called was Tuesday, March 30, 2010. The Date that Leslie Turner registered JointCocktail.com on was - Created on: 26-Mar-10

The Date that Chris Capehart Formor International Emailed Leslie Turner her Suspension Letter was ON - Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 4:22 PM

Ok ya Still with Me on this..

Get This..

The Suspension Letter is Dated March 25th 2010, the Day before Leslie Turner Registered JointCocktail.com .

So did Formor Internal fire someone else on March 25th for the same reason and just changed the letter to Leslie Turner's name. Or did Formor Have a Psychic Premonition that a Leslie Turner would Register JointCocktail.com in the late evening of the next day ?


Formor International Does not have a Trademark on JointCocktail.com - yet they demand that this name now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars BE transfered to them for Free and immediatly - well Time for a Class Action Lawsuit against Formor International for Harassment, Defamation, Taking Downlines, Stealing Volume and Much .. MUCH More..

Whose IN? eMail me at Crystal@CrystalCox.com

By the way 5800 websites use the words "Joint Cocktail" - Leslie Turner the Only one with the Internet Savvy to buy the Dot Com.. So all these sites talk about Joint Cocktail - Yet Formor International Chris Capehart tries to run a "Trade Name" bluff on us.

I am betting that Chris Capehart Formor International is Eating some Mudd Pie today as why would Formor International do this to US... knowing that we have the Dotcom for other products they did this same dumb move with...

This is one Perfect Example of the incompetence at Formor International and on top of that they persecute distributors and ruin lives with their policies and procedures selective memory routine. Good for One.. Good for ALL.. no Formor International is about Double Standards and is not about Empowering or Respecting their Distributors.

And when they have controlled them, got their way with the Almighty suspension which means hey your kids don't eat this month, your mortgage don't get paid, they continue to berate and knock your business out from under you constantly.

These people spent years building a business around Formor International, so they had come to rely on that to get them by in their Real Lives with their Real Family so when the Formor International Mafia Threatens Suspension the Formor International Distributor will immediately do as they say even if it is NOT Legal, Ethical or is Completely Discriminating and Out of Line.. they have no Choice.. they have Families and Lives built around this income that they created with their hard work.

Formor International is not fair or just in any way, they are greedy, controlling and use horrific tactics to Force Formor International Distributor's to do as they say, to shut down sites, to give domain names and whatever Formor International wants.

Formor International talks down to distributors, berates distributors, knocks out links and STEAL your Money.. we watch the Volume.. it is there and then gone.. now if you don't do Internet Marketing full time you may not see the Volume go into your Formor International back office, So you have no way of knowing that it comes back out.

Formor International is no Friend of Mine, and I Caution ANYONE in Joining the Formor International Mafia, you get in .. you work hard.. you do as they say.. and they still Violate You, Harass You and Take YOUR Money... all in the Name of Proverbs 16:11

"The Lord Demands Fairness in Ever Business Deal. He Established this Principle"

Well if there is a Heaven and a Hell.. the Formor International and Advanced Products Team will Certainly Burn in Hell. They are so into the Scriptures, but Really .. there is a lot more in the bible that may be a More Appropriate Scripture when Firing Someone with NO Notice, within Minutes of when they Do as YOU Say. and "Fairness in EVERY Business Deal" what a Crock of Shit that Formor International Keeps spewing in the name of the "Lord" ...

And wasn't yesterday the "Memorial" for Christ's Death for Millions of People around the World? All this is so disturbing I Can Not imagine Formor International having ONE Distributor still working for them... under ANY Circumstances...

By the Way Chris Capehart - YOUR Fired !!! -
as Donald Trump says .. it's NOT personal.. it's Business...

Also Chris Capehart there is No Cure for this VIOLATION...

How did Leslie Turner - now Ex-Formor International Distributor Come to Own JointCocktail.com? Well She is Just that GOOD !!!

How Dumb is Formor International, Really?

Breaking News:
Formor
International - Dumb Gets Dumber..

Just when You Thought that Formor International
Could NOT Possibly get any Dumber...


See though we have been giving Formor International Internet Marketing lessons for years they are still to Ignorant and to Arrogant to Pay Attention, to get advice and to really grasp this here Internet marketing Thing...

ForMor International is So Dumb in Fact.. so Clueless INDEED.. that They Spent who knows how many months brainstorming about a new product, fiddling with the label.. laying out the product on the Formor International Website... talking about it.. and yada yada for who knows how long... and then Formor International's Brilliant in House "Web Department" worked on flyers.. and developing.. their Big Announcement.. even Twittered it and Facebooked it.. WoW

They spent Millions Developing this new product, and yet .. a little itty bitty $10 purchase just slipped their Clueless - Arrogant - Better then Thou BRAINS...

So anyway.. Formor International sent Email announcements out to all their distributors.. about their New Star Product "Joint Cocktail"

this was
Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 2:45 PM


This Formor International - Joint Cocktail Announcement was sent to ALL Formor International Distributors .. YEP.. you Guessed it.. ALL Before.. The Dumb Asses at Formor International even thought of Registering the Domain Name JointCocktail.com ..

After 10PM Mountain Time, Leslie Turner got that Formor International email, and out of all the Distributors who got it.. and 7 hours later.. she bought the DotCom .. as any Brilliant Internet Marketing Genious would have the Savvy to do..

Now Formor International knows how Good we are at Internet Marketing, they have been Bitching about it for years now.. Formor International knows we own DanHobbs.com - FormorSucks.com - NobelEnergyDrink.com - and more.. and well we are Just That Good..

Yet not only did Formor International fail to register the Domain Name before they Tell the world or even whisper the product name around the Formor International break room.. They also sent out a Distributor wide Email announcement of their new produce Joint Cocktail, BEFORE they buy the DotCom..

Now Does it Get Much Dumber then that.. ???

Does Any Formor International distributor actually make money with Formor International ... don't you fear them Firing You at any moment.. Look at their Track Record..

How in the World can you get ahead with these MLM Mafai tactics.. and it has been going on for years and years.. and new distributors are still being Duped into the Formor International Scam.. the Ol' Bait Switch Galore Party.. Enough already.. Quit Formor Now. . .. Run..


Attention Formor Distributors... You Better Head on Over to www.LeslieTurner.com but quick and Get Out of that Sinking Ship at Formor International.

Leslie Turner was at the Top of the Search Engines within the hour after she purchased that Domain Name.. Wouldn't you want to work with someone who can do that for Your Liquid Argine Business.. Your Online Home Based Business.. or do you want to Stick with Formor as they continue to Fumble in the Dark.. at The Expense and hardship of their Dedicated, Hardworking Formor International Distributors.

Formor International Does not get what the Heck this internet thing is all about, they will never get it.. look at their track record.. All Formor Can do is take advantage of the Smart Formor International Distributors - Threaten them.. bully them and well.. Demand of them and then Suspend them ...

Formor International is so Clueless and Arrogant.. they don't even try and copy us and do better.. 3 years Later.. Duh..

I am Banking on the Internet Savvy and Web Marketing Skills of Leslie Turner..
And I suggest You Do the Same
Join Leslie Turner at Good Life International .. Click HERE.
Better Pay Plan - Better Product - Better Treatment.

P.S. - all you Jack Asses at Formor International .. go on ahead.. and .. Huff and Puff, I Own JointCocktail.com and YOU ain't Gettin' it.. .. I offered $201 .. SOLD...

Here is what I will Be Selling there
Mega Joint Plus - Click Here





Thursday, December 17, 2009

Monday, December 14, 2009

FormorSucks.com Preview of What's to Come...

Many are searching on this site, and even emailing me, This site will get a makeover soon, I have been swamped. Today many are searching Chris Gingrasso - in the next few weeks

We will talk about the people that contact me worried for their adult children who have got "sucked in" to Dan Hobbs revivals and more about ForMor selling product in the name of God.

The Formor stuff is my first hand experience. the Ace K stuff, and the other insider secrets ...
That does not change the fact of how ForMor International - Chris Gingrasso treated me.

No one will ever convince me that Formor International did not steal my sales, I watched it happen on my stat counter, people called me.. there was and is nothing I can do but warn folks though they seem to Not believe me, oh well this is my Story, my experience and whether you believe me or not does not change the Truth of what REALLY happened.

ForMor International Constantly sabotaged my business and took from me, why not fire me long before they used me, copied my ideas, stole my Internet traffic and then harassed me and All in the name of God, of Scriptures sent to me.. WHAT?

Believe What you Need to.
For Me I Know my Truth.
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Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Is there Really 5 Grams...

L-Arginine Five Grams r

Formor International

Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Let's Look at the integrity of some of the leaders at Formor International

Now let’s look at the integrity of some of the leaders at ForMor International that are responsible for making all the changes and setting the new direction for ForMor.

Todd Bates…

Todd Bates has been with ForMor since 1996. Todd Bates originally was a distributor sponsored by David Nelson, but then left behind his organization behind to join the ForMor corporate team.
Obviously he was not making enough money. Later he decided to go back in the field and become a distributor. What is interesting was ForMor took some high volume distributors away from Ragon Moore, and created a new leg outside of Ragon Moore.

Now Mr. Moore (brought the idea of the 15-45 compensation plan to ForMor, his ID number is 1 and was always promised that everyone would be in his downline. ForMor broke their promise with Ragon Moore, which hurt him deeply and he was no longer visible at any of the ForMor functions.

At the meeting in November 2008, Todd Bates admitted to the entire group present, that he was not making the income he was telling everyone he was making and emphasized the need to change the comp plan.

Now, ForMor knew exactly what Todd Bates was earning, yet they allowed him to make false income claims on conference calls and at meetings all over the country.

James Abbey…

James Abbey could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates that he was not making enough money.

Mr. Bates went into the back office in ForMor and moved Kevin Casanova from under himself and placed him under James Abbey giving Mr. Abbey the volume needed to qualify for the Double diamond Elite bonus.

James Abbey earned that extra $1500 check the old fashion way…it was given to him.

Kevin Casanova…could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates he was not making enough money to stick with the program. Mr. Bates went into the ForMor back office and once again moved volume from directly under James Abbey and placed it under Kevin Casanova so he could now qualify to get paid the extra $1500.

This information was common knowledge among the distributors who actually earned their Double Diamond Elite bonus. It infuriated them to learn their checks became smaller because a couple of individuals, who did not earn the bonus, joined this prestigious group, which lowered their pay out from the bonus pool.

David Boldenwhile Dr. Harry Elwardt and Al Sewell were attending ForMor University, David Bolden approached them with an offer.

He explained that he was going to sign up a new distributor in Russia and that this distributor was responsible for all the volume that he and Dan Hobbs had with their last MLM company. (in Case your Wondering Why Dan Hobbs showed up.. I mean he is VERY bad at Marketing, yet he is touted as a Marketing Guru.. there HAD to be OTHER connections.. I Get Internet Markeing and Believe Me Dan Hobbs DOES NOT.. he Does not even own his own dotcom but brags about being able to Market you.. Dan Hobbs can only market with hate, discrimination and lies.... In My Informed, Experienced .. Opinion)

David Bolden's idea was to sign this person under Al Sewell and with Dr. Elwardt’s assistance of introducing the DPAs to Russia; it would be a win win for everyone.

His only requirement for this to happen was for Dr. Elwardt to approve to move his entire downline under David Bolden.

He completed the meeting by saying, "don’t let anyone else know about this."

Dr. Elwardt, at the time, saw no problem with this move and approved it with his sponsor Todd Bates. The move took place immediately, the Russian distributor was signed up under Al Sewell and then the Russians started pouring into the company…WRONG!

One month went by…two months…three months and so on. Not one person signed up under this Russian. Now, who benefits the most from the termination of Al Sewell and Dr. Elwardt? David Bolden Does...

So, you can see shenanigans like this have been going on for some time. ForMor has their favorites and allows their favorites freedom to do whatever they want. And if anyone opposes ForMorthey will just cut their legs out from under them. (Kind of Like a Supplement Mafai or an MLM Cartel)

Rumor has it that when Chris Gingrasso announced on a leaders conference call that Dr. Harry's termination letter was mailed out… that all these leaders actually cheered on the phone.

Why is this? They all loved Dr. Harry when they were using him to get rich, and then when they had sucked the life from his business they simply removed him. DO NOT doubt that YOU will BE Next.

There is NOT One Reason to Trust ANYONE at the Corporate Level or Top Cronies at ForMor Internation, if they will do this to Top Distributors, they will do this to you.

ForMor International, Magician Chris Gingrasso and all those Elite Boys at ForMOR are not of Integrity and if you build your business at ForMor International well then you are Wasting your Time, your money, Your Family's Time, and you are NOT building a Future..

It is Only a Matter of Time before ForMor International.. Stan Goss, Michael Goss, and Chris Gingrasso... and the Gang of Thieves at ForMor International Terminate YOU...
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Got a Tip Or Complaint about Formor International? Email Me at Crystal@CrystalCox.com

QUIT Formor NOW Before You Build a Downline they WILL Steal !!!!