Now let’s look at the integrity of some of the leaders at ForMor International that are responsible for making all the changes and setting the new direction for ForMor.
Todd Bates…
Todd Bates has been with ForMor since 1996. Todd Bates originally was a distributor sponsored by David Nelson, but then left behind his organization behind to join the ForMor corporate team.
Obviously he was not making enough money. Later he decided to go back in the field and become a distributor. What is interesting was ForMor took some high volume distributors away from Ragon Moore, and created a new leg outside of Ragon Moore.
Now Mr. Moore (brought the idea of the 15-45 compensation plan to ForMor, his ID number is 1 and was always promised that everyone would be in his downline. ForMor broke their promise with Ragon Moore, which hurt him deeply and he was no longer visible at any of the ForMor functions.
At the meeting in November 2008, Todd Bates admitted to the entire group present, that he was not making the income he was telling everyone he was making and emphasized the need to change the comp plan.
Now, ForMor knew exactly what Todd Bates was earning, yet they allowed him to make false income claims on conference calls and at meetings all over the country.
James Abbey…
James Abbey could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates that he was not making enough money.
Mr. Bates went into the back office in ForMor and moved Kevin Casanova from under himself and placed him under James Abbey giving Mr. Abbey the volume needed to qualify for the Double diamond Elite bonus.
James Abbey earned that extra $1500 check the old fashion way…it was given to him.
Kevin Casanova…could not meet the qualification to get paid the Double Diamond Elite bonus and told his sponsor Todd Bates he was not making enough money to stick with the program. Mr. Bates went into the ForMor back office and once again moved volume from directly under James Abbey and placed it under Kevin Casanova so he could now qualify to get paid the extra $1500.
This information was common knowledge among the distributors who actually earned their Double Diamond Elite bonus. It infuriated them to learn their checks became smaller because a couple of individuals, who did not earn the bonus, joined this prestigious group, which lowered their pay out from the bonus pool.
David Bolden…while Dr. Harry Elwardt and Al Sewell were attending ForMor University, David Bolden approached them with an offer.
He explained that he was going to sign up a new distributor in Russia and that this distributor was responsible for all the volume that he and Dan Hobbs had with their last MLM company. (in Case your Wondering Why Dan Hobbs showed up.. I mean he is VERY bad at Marketing, yet he is touted as a Marketing Guru.. there HAD to be OTHER connections.. I Get Internet Markeing and Believe Me Dan Hobbs DOES NOT.. he Does not even own his own dotcom but brags about being able to Market you.. Dan Hobbs can only market with hate, discrimination and lies.... In My Informed, Experienced .. Opinion)
David Bolden's idea was to sign this person under Al Sewell and with Dr. Elwardt’s assistance of introducing the DPAs to Russia; it would be a win win for everyone.
His only requirement for this to happen was for Dr. Elwardt to approve to move his entire downline under David Bolden.
He completed the meeting by saying, "don’t let anyone else know about this."
Dr. Elwardt, at the time, saw no problem with this move and approved it with his sponsor Todd Bates. The move took place immediately, the Russian distributor was signed up under Al Sewell and then the Russians started pouring into the company…WRONG!
One month went by…two months…three months and so on. Not one person signed up under this Russian. Now, who benefits the most from the termination of Al Sewell and Dr. Elwardt? David Bolden Does...
So, you can see shenanigans like this have been going on for some time. ForMor has their favorites and allows their favorites freedom to do whatever they want. And if anyone opposes ForMor…they will just cut their legs out from under them. (Kind of Like a Supplement Mafai or an MLM Cartel)
Rumor has it that when Chris Gingrasso announced on a leaders conference call that Dr. Harry's termination letter was mailed out… that all these leaders actually cheered on the phone.
Why is this? They all loved Dr. Harry when they were using him to get rich, and then when they had sucked the life from his business they simply removed him. DO NOT doubt that YOU will BE Next.
There is NOT One Reason to Trust ANYONE at the Corporate Level or Top Cronies at ForMor Internation, if they will do this to Top Distributors, they will do this to you.
ForMor International, Magician Chris Gingrasso and all those Elite Boys at ForMOR are not of Integrity and if you build your business at ForMor International well then you are Wasting your Time, your money, Your Family's Time, and you are NOT building a Future..
It is Only a Matter of Time before ForMor International.. Stan Goss, Michael Goss, and Chris Gingrasso... and the Gang of Thieves at ForMor International Terminate YOU...
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Showing posts with label James Abbey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label James Abbey. Show all posts
Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Mark Rosales and Digital Pulsewave Technology
Mark Rosales introduced the Digital Pulsewave technology to ForMor through Meridian Medical and later through Medicore. Mark Rosales was also a Platinum Diamond in ForMor. He also had a contract to receive royalties on every machine that was sold. One day ForMor decided to cancel the contract and when Mark complained they terminated his distributorship, took away his residual check and said he was cross-recruiting…again without providing any proof.
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James Abbey of ForMor International says that ForMor NEVER does this.. so This blog is exploring some of those that have had this done to them at ForMor, some VERY big Players with VERY big Paychecks..
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If ForMor International has Terminated Your Distributorship email me your story at Crystal@CrystalCox.com and Get Heard.
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James Abbey of ForMor International says that ForMor NEVER does this.. so This blog is exploring some of those that have had this done to them at ForMor, some VERY big Players with VERY big Paychecks..
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If ForMor International has Terminated Your Distributorship email me your story at Crystal@CrystalCox.com and Get Heard.
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More on James Abbey Message to Me
Folks it really is NOT true when James Abbey talks about ForMor never firing people without reason, ForMor International has been firing "heavy hitters" and stealing their down line for a very long time.
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No Notice, No Reason, Just HUGE Downlines Taken by ForMor International and Now they are Desperately Recruiting you unsuspecting New ForMor International Distributors.
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You Could spend a decade building a Huge Downline and without warning, one day it is just gone..
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Policies and Procedures at ForMor International are changed often it seems like, they are ignored, at times, for years until the Distributor makes big money and then ForMor Simply Takes the Money.... NO Notice, No Reason .. just Greed, Lack of Integrity and a serious lack of respect for the distributors that made them wealthy.
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No Notice, No Reason, Just HUGE Downlines Taken by ForMor International and Now they are Desperately Recruiting you unsuspecting New ForMor International Distributors.
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You Could spend a decade building a Huge Downline and without warning, one day it is just gone..
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Policies and Procedures at ForMor International are changed often it seems like, they are ignored, at times, for years until the Distributor makes big money and then ForMor Simply Takes the Money.... NO Notice, No Reason .. just Greed, Lack of Integrity and a serious lack of respect for the distributors that made them wealthy.
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Saturday, August 29, 2009
James Abbey - ForMor International.. getting lot's of Traffic
Many seem to be interested in my James Abbey Post. So many, in fact that at this point I am starting to see that James Abbey may very well be a part of those policy changes at ForMor. Why would he say things like no one being terminated without cause and send me that message ?
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Does he think I will say "oh sorry, I lied" "just having a bad day". I mean what was the real point of the message telling me I NEED to STOP?
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I am a Consumer Rights Advocate, mostly within the Real Estate World. I do not like to see people spend their money, time.. blood - sweat - and tears on something that those in power can take away at a moment's notice. I tell my story to protect other, to stand up for others.
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People are NOT coming to Formor in Droves as Chris Gingrasso has recently state, make them prove it to you before you simply "take their word for it".
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This Blog is what I experienced, I will soon be posting emails from Chris Gingrasso to me from last summer. It is Shocking that James Abbey just assumed that years later, I had never even tried to "talk" to those nice and reasonable folks at Formor.
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I gave it my all, Time - Money - Effort.. over and over and still the same lies, the same discrimination, and I was in no way treated fair or equal by Formor International.
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Also DO not Believe James Abbey of Formor International about people not being fired, don't believe me Either...Check into for yourself, many Big Boys were removed, fired for some reason ForMor International slipped in years later as policy or one day stopped ignoring that policy just so they could fire them and KEEP their ENTIRE downline.
You have to look Deep to Find it. Don't Believe me, I am simply asking that you do your homework before you waste years of your life building a business only to have it ripped from you in one short sentence ( a Policy change or a Policy Suddenly, Actually being Enforced.)
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Does he think I will say "oh sorry, I lied" "just having a bad day". I mean what was the real point of the message telling me I NEED to STOP?
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I am a Consumer Rights Advocate, mostly within the Real Estate World. I do not like to see people spend their money, time.. blood - sweat - and tears on something that those in power can take away at a moment's notice. I tell my story to protect other, to stand up for others.
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People are NOT coming to Formor in Droves as Chris Gingrasso has recently state, make them prove it to you before you simply "take their word for it".
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This Blog is what I experienced, I will soon be posting emails from Chris Gingrasso to me from last summer. It is Shocking that James Abbey just assumed that years later, I had never even tried to "talk" to those nice and reasonable folks at Formor.
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I gave it my all, Time - Money - Effort.. over and over and still the same lies, the same discrimination, and I was in no way treated fair or equal by Formor International.
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Also DO not Believe James Abbey of Formor International about people not being fired, don't believe me Either...Check into for yourself, many Big Boys were removed, fired for some reason ForMor International slipped in years later as policy or one day stopped ignoring that policy just so they could fire them and KEEP their ENTIRE downline.
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there is the TRUTH - there is the LIE.
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Saturday, August 22, 2009
Email from James Abbey telling me I 'need to Stop" - Telling you the TRUTH about ForMor.
The Email is in Blue and my Response is in Black.
If your so mad, why are you and (your upline) still buying product and selling it.
The Sales Tax Stuff, the lack of integrity, the changing of the Policy and Procedures at Random is true from what I currently know, if you know different then send your information and source on over.
Though our team dominated the internet for Cardio Cocktail. We did not make much money, though we got the traffic and the click through, FORMOR did change our links often and RUIN our business - I talked to ForMor month after month last summer and have the emails to prove it, Emails where they said no one had a website it was against Policy, YET I could GOOGLE and see that was a LIE or a Double Standard, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Look Deeper James Abbey, Cardio Cocktail and ForMor International are NOT who you think they are.. look into the details of every post.. Call Prendergast, Call any previous folks on the Medical Staff, DIG DEEP and FIND the Truth for YourSelf. Call people fired from Formor and who had their downline Stolen.. DO NOT BELIEVE ME.. do your OWN research.
I was NOT Really Terminated.. I mean come on, obviously a blog like this would make ForMor finally Remove me as a Distributor, Yet sometimes it seems I still may be there.. not sure really.
I Quit many months Before, but ForMor needs Snail mail and I did not want to do that so I was not allowed to Quit. So yes, finally a Termination Letter after they FINALLY figured out who owned FormorSucks.com and then a Cease and Desist with a Termination and some Bible Verses Slipped in.
They harassed Me, removed or change where my links went to weekly, I DID TALK TO THEM, and after all the money and work put in then the Pay plan fiasco.. Well for Me Formor International did not have integrity, for me they lied, they changed policy at random and from my point of view ForMor International is not a company of integrity, not a company who has your back or encourages you to grow a good business or that you could trust that business would be there after you spent years building it.. you never know when a lie or a policy change will steal your entire downline..
And on top of all this, the Original MarcusS McFiddle Video was VERY offensive and is When I had Taken Enough... ForMor never helped me, or encouraged my business to grow in any way.. this is simply my experience for me.. Take it or Leave it. You Do not Have to Read this Blog.
ForMor has never terminated anyone with out going to them and asking them to stop breaking the rules. So apparently you broke the rules.
This is NOT true, ask around, ForMor certainly Has Terminated People for NO Real Reason.
I BROKE the Rules over a YEAR ago when I had a WEBSITE, as did my Up line and my UPLINES Up lines.. I was not Terminated for that.. The Rules constantly changed, I joined with internet marketing as my main plan of sales, they were all doing it, then Formor emailed me and said no one had a website, this was in their defense to why do the links keep changing, well your not allowed to have a Website.. What? They all did.
You can believe what makes you sleep at night. Be careful you never know if your breaking a Rule at ForMor International, they change the rules at random. You cannot keep up unless your helping them to Make THE RULES... then there is the WE look the other Way for the Distributors we love.. and OR we let them Build HUGE down lines then fire them for something they were really doing all along.
You are trying to take out good distributors as well when you slander the company.
That is Just Too Bad, ForMor Promotes Discrimination and HATE, ForMor Lies, I am telling the Truth If it Hurts you TOO bad, consumers like I was deserve to know the TRUTH. By the Way TRUTH is NOT Slander, it is TRUTH..
You truly have a bigger heart then that. I mean come on.
Are you kidding, they trash me, they ruin my business, they lie to me and you want me to have a heart .. Wake up and Smell the Cardio Cocktail... I am not trying to Hurt YOU.. it is NOT personal toward you .. it is to Protect others from Becoming Victims of what ForMor is Really About.. it is That Simple.
If you got a problem with ForMor go to them talk to them but don't slander all the rest of us by posting garbage all over the internet.
Gee, I never Thought of that.. BEEN THERE done THAT.. ain't Happening.. they do not listen.
Sorry James Abbey that you feel slandered, but if your not in charge of the integrity of the ingredients, not in charge of the 10 customer rule, the ace k, and the other ISSUES I am discussing then how am I slandering you.
If I tell you the Truth, which I feel I have gained through personal experience or I have gotten from a source that I deem as reliable, and you feel slandered from this and you choose to work for that company then that has NOTHING to DO WITH ME.. Believe as you Choose, You Have Free Will.
James Abbey
You can QUIT ForMor or You can Stay. It is your Choice, I am writing the Truth as I have seen it and experienced it.. YOU don't have to Read this blog and you Do NOT have to Believe a Word I say..
ForMor Used Me, Harassed Me and Is Not of integrity... If you believe different then that is simply your choice.. the Truth Remains the Truth. This is My Opionion based on my research, my personal experience, conversations I have had, emails I have had, letters I have had. It is MY Blog.. if you don't like it click the big red X in the upper RIGHT and Move On.
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If your so mad, why are you and (your upline) still buying product and selling it.
I did not know I was Buying Product, I was Terminated long after I tried to Quit, how can I buy..as far as Others buying it from my Previous Upline - I Don't Care what they do. Free Will.
The Original Marcus McFiddle Video is What Really Tipped me over the Edge.. It was so Discriminating, so Shocking, I don't know how Formor can even come back from that, unless of course they are all proud of ForMor being so blatantly discriminative against a Particular Sector of Society, oh well right.
http://www.formorsucks.com/2009/07/is-truth-copyright-infringement.html
ForMor is not who you Think they are. Do your own homework, I am NOT asking you to believe me. Join ForMor and see what happens for your own eyes. Think for Yourself. And as far as what I say on this blog.. DO NOT BELIEVE it.. Do your Own Homework, for Me it is True, I am not asking you to believe me, Believe what you need to sleep better at night. I am simply telling my story, I am only one girl, one person, one experience.. Think for yourself and Do what you need to do for you.
I don't under stand your mission here in trying to slander the company. Yes I know you were terminated, but why is that.
The Sales Tax Stuff, the lack of integrity, the changing of the Policy and Procedures at Random is true from what I currently know, if you know different then send your information and source on over.
Though our team dominated the internet for Cardio Cocktail. We did not make much money, though we got the traffic and the click through, FORMOR did change our links often and RUIN our business - I talked to ForMor month after month last summer and have the emails to prove it, Emails where they said no one had a website it was against Policy, YET I could GOOGLE and see that was a LIE or a Double Standard, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Look Deeper James Abbey, Cardio Cocktail and ForMor International are NOT who you think they are.. look into the details of every post.. Call Prendergast, Call any previous folks on the Medical Staff, DIG DEEP and FIND the Truth for YourSelf. Call people fired from Formor and who had their downline Stolen.. DO NOT BELIEVE ME.. do your OWN research.
I was NOT Really Terminated.. I mean come on, obviously a blog like this would make ForMor finally Remove me as a Distributor, Yet sometimes it seems I still may be there.. not sure really.
I Quit many months Before, but ForMor needs Snail mail and I did not want to do that so I was not allowed to Quit. So yes, finally a Termination Letter after they FINALLY figured out who owned FormorSucks.com and then a Cease and Desist with a Termination and some Bible Verses Slipped in.
They harassed Me, removed or change where my links went to weekly, I DID TALK TO THEM, and after all the money and work put in then the Pay plan fiasco.. Well for Me Formor International did not have integrity, for me they lied, they changed policy at random and from my point of view ForMor International is not a company of integrity, not a company who has your back or encourages you to grow a good business or that you could trust that business would be there after you spent years building it.. you never know when a lie or a policy change will steal your entire downline..
And on top of all this, the Original MarcusS McFiddle Video was VERY offensive and is When I had Taken Enough... ForMor never helped me, or encouraged my business to grow in any way.. this is simply my experience for me.. Take it or Leave it. You Do not Have to Read this Blog.
ForMor has never terminated anyone with out going to them and asking them to stop breaking the rules. So apparently you broke the rules.
This is NOT true, ask around, ForMor certainly Has Terminated People for NO Real Reason.
I BROKE the Rules over a YEAR ago when I had a WEBSITE, as did my Up line and my UPLINES Up lines.. I was not Terminated for that.. The Rules constantly changed, I joined with internet marketing as my main plan of sales, they were all doing it, then Formor emailed me and said no one had a website, this was in their defense to why do the links keep changing, well your not allowed to have a Website.. What? They all did.
You can believe what makes you sleep at night. Be careful you never know if your breaking a Rule at ForMor International, they change the rules at random. You cannot keep up unless your helping them to Make THE RULES... then there is the WE look the other Way for the Distributors we love.. and OR we let them Build HUGE down lines then fire them for something they were really doing all along.
You are trying to take out good distributors as well when you slander the company.
That is Just Too Bad, ForMor Promotes Discrimination and HATE, ForMor Lies, I am telling the Truth If it Hurts you TOO bad, consumers like I was deserve to know the TRUTH. By the Way TRUTH is NOT Slander, it is TRUTH..
You truly have a bigger heart then that. I mean come on.
Are you kidding, they trash me, they ruin my business, they lie to me and you want me to have a heart .. Wake up and Smell the Cardio Cocktail... I am not trying to Hurt YOU.. it is NOT personal toward you .. it is to Protect others from Becoming Victims of what ForMor is Really About.. it is That Simple.
If you got a problem with ForMor go to them talk to them but don't slander all the rest of us by posting garbage all over the internet.
Gee, I never Thought of that.. BEEN THERE done THAT.. ain't Happening.. they do not listen.
Sorry James Abbey that you feel slandered, but if your not in charge of the integrity of the ingredients, not in charge of the 10 customer rule, the ace k, and the other ISSUES I am discussing then how am I slandering you.
If I tell you the Truth, which I feel I have gained through personal experience or I have gotten from a source that I deem as reliable, and you feel slandered from this and you choose to work for that company then that has NOTHING to DO WITH ME.. Believe as you Choose, You Have Free Will.
James Abbey
You can QUIT ForMor or You can Stay. It is your Choice, I am writing the Truth as I have seen it and experienced it.. YOU don't have to Read this blog and you Do NOT have to Believe a Word I say..
ForMor Used Me, Harassed Me and Is Not of integrity... If you believe different then that is simply your choice.. the Truth Remains the Truth. This is My Opionion based on my research, my personal experience, conversations I have had, emails I have had, letters I have had. It is MY Blog.. if you don't like it click the big red X in the upper RIGHT and Move On.
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